Author: "brewfly2001" <brewfly2001@...> Time: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:06 pm PST Link
As someone who's a first time builder and just getting ready to tool
up their workshop for building a 10. What should some of the
essential/basic tools I be looking at?
Author: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@...> Time: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:32 pm PST Link
Both Cleveland Aircraft Tools and Avery Tools have complete kits to chose
from. The Yard www.yardstore.com has what appears to be good prices but I
have no experience in dealing with them.
Cleveland and Avery are both great outfits, experienced RV builders, and
very knowledgeable.
Buy good quality dimple dies, you will have to have a "C frame dimpling
tool," get tons of clecoes.
Do an achieve search on rivet squeezers there are several types and everyone
has their favorite.
Whether to choose the 2X or 3X size rivet guy is an ongoing debate. I would
suggest getting the Avery and Cleveland catalogs (or online) read up on
both, then talk to them for a recommendation.
A work bench with an overhanging ends is very convenient, parts can be
quickly clamped to wood blocking there to free up both hands to work on the
part.
Before buying any expensive machine tools or things like pneumatic
squeezers, check around your area for other builders that may let you borrow
or rent. You might also go in one with someone in your area if you can't
resist getting some of the bigger stuff.
I would suggest the type compressor that has the belt driven piston
compressor and a good sized tank. Rotary air tools and spraying use a lot
of air. The smaller direct drive type compressors make a racket that you
will soon bug you or the wife.
There's lots more but the above is what comes to mind now.
Regards
Dick Sipp
RV4 N250DS
RV10 N110DV (reserved)
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Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:16 am PST Link
In addition to the earlier reply about Avery and Cleaveland, I'd
recommend reading over Dan Checkoway's web page on tools
http://www.rvproject.com/tools.html which gives a pretty fair
assessment of his assortment. I took the plunge and ordered the
complete RV builder's tool set from one of the above suppliers and
have used virtually all of the tools included (and have only gotten
to the rudder) so there isn't a lot of extra "fluff" stuff included.
I'm sure you'll get differing opinions and could probably do without
some of the tools, but my view is that I've taken on a multi-year
task to build a $100K airplane and cutting corners on tools wouldn't
have great payback. Again - opinions will vary widely but your
specific situation will vary based upon how your personal trade space
(time, money, shop space, etc).
One tool that you don't see mentioned often but is listed on Dan's
website and is a huge help is the 6" cut-off saw. It's only $30-$40
and can be a huge time saver.
With all of the above said, please understand that I too am a first
time builder and therefore all of the above are my early observations
and impressions. One of the best things that I did was order the
airfoil practice kit which got me some cheap ($32 from Vans), early
practice. I still use it to try out tools/techniques for the first
time (like drilling out rivets...). The instructions and kit are
from the non-prepunched era - just understand that the RV-10 is MUCH
more advanced and easier to put together than the practice kit.
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "brewfly2001" <brewfly2001@y...> wrote:
> As someone who's a first time builder and just getting ready to
tool
> up their workshop for building a 10. What should some of the
> essential/basic tools I be looking at?
Author: Chris W <chrisw3@...> Time: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:45 am PST Link
brewfly2001 wrote:
> As someone who's a first time builder and just getting ready to tool
> up their workshop for building a 10. What should some of the
> essential/basic tools I be looking at?
The RV-10 is much like the other RVs. There are 2 RV mailing lists that
I know of that are generic to all RV models. This topic comes up on
them all the time, so in the archives of those messages there are
numerous messages concerning things like size and type of compressor,
tools that are nice to have and tools that are a must have. To use a
2x, 3x, 4x.... rivet gun. The one I like the best is the Matronics RV
list. You can search their archives here
http://www.matronics.com/search/ the other one is a yahoo group you can
join here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vansairforce/?yguid=107802598
The biggest thing I can think of that will be different for the 10 vs
the other RV models is you are going to need a bigger shop since the
plane is bigger and you are going to need a LOT more clecos. I
personally find browsing through the tool catalogs helpful. There are
several. Below is a list of all the ones I have found.... most will
send you a print catalog if you ask.
http://www.averytools.com/
http://www.cleavelandtool.com/
http://www.browntool.com/
http://www.usatco.com/
http://www.aircraft-tool.com/
http://www.ustool.com/
http://www.rivettools.com/.
http://www.clearairtools.com/
http://www.aircraftsupportequ.com/warench.html
http://www.planetools.com/
http://www.panamericantool.com/
http://www.mscdirect.com/
http://www.mcmaster.com/
http://www.grainger.com/
http://www.harborfreight.com/
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/
http://www.monadnock.com/mandm.htm
http://www.yardstore.com/
http://www.gretzaero.com/
http://www.dynamation.com/dyhard.htm
http://www.wentworthaircraft.com/
http://www.ruggedwypes.com/page/page/301548.htm
http://www.allmed.net/catalog/showitem.php/3694
http://www.precisionform.com/
http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/
http://www.polygon.cc/index.htm
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