Home -> RV-10 topic: Bending of rudder trailing edge skins

Author: "Chris" <toaster73@...> Time: Tue Jan 6, 2004 6:57 pm PST Link

Hello group what is the opinion on the following:
I used a roller tool from Avery to put the slight bend in the trailing edge of my rudder skins and on one skin I did good, but on the other skin I was tired, and over did it, and ended up with some waviness - have I screwed up or will the stiffener make up for this waviness and pull it all out once I begin riveting?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
# 72

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Author: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@...> Time: Wed Jan 7, 2004 3:29 am PST Link

>Hello group what is the opinion on the following:
>I used a roller tool from Avery to put the slight bend in the trailing edge
>of my rudder skins and on one skin I did good, but on the other skin I was
>tired, and over did it, and ended up with some waviness - have I screwed up
>or will the stiffener make up for this waviness and pull it all out once I
>begin riveting?
>Thanks
>Chris Lucas
># 72

The roller tool works best when applied in gradual passes. Use reflected
light to see when the bend has been made. Those skins are only .016" (much
to my surprise, as I expected .020" for such a large bird!) so you may be
able to dress them down by merely passing your thumb over the bend a few
times...just work it down a bit on the bench top. I do expect the riveting
to the wedge will take care of any waviness. I haven't done mine yet, but
probably will in the next few days. I'm going to use Mike Howe's technique
of clecoing every other hole to a long piece of angle iron, which serves as
a back riveting plate as well.

Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 51 rudder

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Author: "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@...> Time: Wed Jan 7, 2004 3:29 am PST Link

HI Chris,

I used the Cleveland version of the same tool and I admit, I've
cussed it a couple of different times. The edge is curved and if
you are not careful you can roll right up onto the skin. If you
have it too loose, you won't get much edge, if you have it too
tight, you stretch the skin and get 'the wave'. When I got the
wave, I used a hand seamer to bring it in a little farther than the
roller did, then, when the rivets brought the edges together, it
tool almost all of the wave out.

Mine is not perfect, but with the proseal on the trailing edge, the
proseal did a good job of filling the 1/32" gaps that were left by
the wave. If someone gets up to mine, like within 6" and really
looks it over they may point it out, but otherwise, it's totally
unnoticeable. Don't worry, it should be ok. What I found is that
it's best to use both hands on the roller to make sure you roll very
straight. Then, be sure to err on the side of too loose vs. too
tight. What I ended up doing on my elevators was rolling a bit on
the light side, then following with a hand seamer. My edges came
out looking swell! Another lesson learned by a first timer!

Good luck!

Pete

--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <toaster73@e...> wrote:
> Hello group what is the opinion on the following:
> I used a roller tool from Avery to put the slight bend in the
trailing edge


Author: "Chris" <toaster73@...> Time: Fri Jan 9, 2004 6:07 pm PST Link

Well upon further clecoing etc. it appears I should probably go ahead with
what I have, I am going to use the angle iron method too. I think that will
really do the trick.
thanks for the tips.
Chris L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@h...>
To: <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:37 AM
Subject: RE: [RV10] Bending of rudder trailing edge skins

> >Hello group what is the opinion on the following:
> >I used a roller tool from Avery to put the slight bend in the trailing
edge
> >of my rudder skins and on one skin I did good, but on the other skin I
was
> >tired, and over did it, and ended up with some waviness - have I screwed
up
> >or will the stiffener make up for this waviness and pull it all out once
I
> >begin riveting?
> >Thanks
> >Chris Lucas
> ># 72
>
> The roller tool works best when applied in gradual passes. Use reflected
> light to see when the bend has been made. Those skins are only .016"
(much
> to my surprise, as I expected .020" for such a large bird!) so you may be
> able to dress them down by merely passing your thumb over the bend a few
> times...just work it down a bit on the bench top. I do expect the
riveting
> to the wedge will take care of any waviness. I haven't done mine yet, but
> probably will in the next few days. I'm going to use Mike Howe's
technique
> of clecoing every other hole to a long piece of angle iron, which serves
as
> a back riveting plate as well.
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 51 rudder
>
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