Author: "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@...> Time: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:01 am PST Link
Hey kids,
As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be sure
to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they come 3
to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a second
trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them even
smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the tailcone
side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in the
kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to provide
your own?
Pete
Author: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@...> Time: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:15 am PST Link
: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:08:09 -0000
>
>Hey kids,
>
>As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be sure
>to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they come 3
>to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a second
>trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them even
>smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the tailcone
>side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
>reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
>attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in the
>kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to provide
>your own?
>
>Pete
>
Solenoid? You mean servo? They came in a small white box...mount on a deck
in the 'cone I think. Too far down the road for me just yet...still working
the rudder.
Brian Denk
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Author: "jaybrinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@...> Time: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:35 pm PST Link
Hummm. I seem to recall receiving something that looked an awful lot
like a (trim tab?) solenoid. Please help enlighten the unwashed
building masses (okay at least me) with an explanation of why cable
exit fairings are a must-have item....
Jay
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> Hey kids,
>
> As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be
sure
> to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they come
3
> to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a
second
> trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them even
> smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the tailcone
> side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
> reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
> attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in the
> kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to provide
> your own?
>
> Pete
Author: "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@...> Time: Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:25 am PST Link
OK, I called it the wrong thing......page 10-24 its the ES-24115
Master Relay.....which I now assume is not included since its not on
my inventory sheet.
Also, to this I say ah-ah-ah-- I didn't say must have .....it is only
of 'goody' status. The cable exit fairings aren't a nescessity by
any means....but if you've seen one, they do clean up the look a
bit...and hey...you might even gain a hundreth or so a an entire knot
by putting them on. I was merely saying...if you plan to use them as
I do..NOW is the time to drill,deburr, dimple and install these
babies....before you get your cone all buttoned up. Besides..they
are pretty cheap....and I'm betting they will keep the morning dew
and heaven forbid...the rain ...out a bit when washing down the
sides....
Cheers! ;-}
Pete
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "jaybrinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@y...>
wrote:
> Hummm. I seem to recall receiving something that looked an awful
lot
> like a (trim tab?) solenoid. Please help enlighten the unwashed
> building masses (okay at least me) with an explanation of why cable
> exit fairings are a must-have item....
>
> Jay
Author: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@...> Time: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:35 am PST Link
>OK, I called it the wrong thing......page 10-24 its the ES-24115
>Master Relay.....which I now assume is not included since its not on
>my inventory sheet.
Ah, I see now. Master relay. Can get these from any Cole Hersee vendor.
Just need a 12V battery solenoid rated for continuous duty. The starter
solenoid is almost identical except rated for intermittent duty. They both
typically get mounted with the battery onto the same tray. At least it's
that way on the -8.
The rudder cable exit fairings do dress up the airplane but are certainly
not required. With the tail of the RV10 sticking up as high as it does,
they would be more noticeable than on the taildraggers.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:52 am PST Link
I've been thinking about my electrical system as I'm building and
monitoring the AeroElectric list. Recommendation from expert Bob
Nuckolls is to mount the starter contactor in the engine
compartment. Reasoning behind the starter contactor location is to
allow the hookup of the alternator b-lead to it and keep the noisey
wire out of the cockpit. Recommendation for the battery contactor
(and ground power contactor if equipped) is to have those as close to
the battery as possible.
The AeroElectric list is a tremendous resource with lots of good info
and solid advice - highly recommended for all things electrical.
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Denk" <akroguy@h...> wrote:
>
> >OK, I called it the wrong thing......page 10-24 its the ES-24115
> >Master Relay.....which I now assume is not included since its not
on
> >my inventory sheet.
> Ah, I see now. Master relay. Can get these from any Cole Hersee
vendor.
> Just need a 12V battery solenoid rated for continuous duty. The
starter
> solenoid is almost identical except rated for intermittent duty.
They both
> typically get mounted with the battery onto the same tray. At
least it's
> that way on the -8.
>
> The rudder cable exit fairings do dress up the airplane but are
certainly
> not required. With the tail of the RV10 sticking up as high as it
does,
> they would be more noticeable than on the taildraggers.
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51
>
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Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 7:52 am PST Link
Pete,
I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3 (one
spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable exit?
I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> Hey kids,
>
> As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be
sure
> to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they come 3
> to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a
second
> trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them even
> smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the tailcone
> side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
> reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
> attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in the
> kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to provide
> your own?
>
> Pete
Author: Aaron Sims <ams@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 10:37 am PST Link
I think the need for 4 comes from the fact that there are 2
elevator trim tabs, in addition to the 2 rudder cables.
--
Aaron M. Sims
RV-10 #40036
http://canopyroad.org/rv10/
ams@g...
On Feb 02, Bob Condrey <bob.condrey@b...> wrote:
> Pete,
>
> I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
> appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3 (one
> spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable exit?
> I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
>
> Bob
>
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> > Hey kids,
> >
> > As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be
> sure
> > to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they come 3
> > to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a
> second
> > trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them even
> > smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the tailcone
> > side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
> > reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
> > attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in the
> > kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to provide
> > your own?
> >
> > Pete
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Author: "Don Forrest" <dforrest1563@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 10:37 am PST Link
You can use 2 for the rudder cable exits and 2 for the elevator trim
tab push rod exits if you want to.
Don #40114
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@b...> wrote:
> Pete,
>
> I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
> appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3
(one
> spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable
exit?
> I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
>
> Bob
>
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> > Hey kids,
> >
> > As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be
> sure
> > to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they
come 3
> > to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a
> second
> > trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them
even
> > smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the
tailcone
> > side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
> > reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
> > attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in
the
> > kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to
provide
> > your own?
> >
> > Pete
Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 10:54 am PST Link
Suddenly the light comes on...
Thanks!
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Sims <ams@g...> wrote:
> I think the need for 4 comes from the fact that there are 2
> elevator trim tabs, in addition to the 2 rudder cables.
> --
> Aaron M. Sims
> RV-10 #40036
> http://canopyroad.org/rv10/
> ams@g...
> On Feb 02, Bob Condrey <bob.condrey@b...> wrote:
> > Pete,
> >
> > I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
> > appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3
(one
> > spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable
exit?
> > I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> > > Hey kids,
> > >
> > > As long as you are ordering goodies to put into your kits....be
> > sure
> > > to order the cable exit fairings from Avery. Right now they
come 3
> > > to a kit, but for the RV-10 there should be 4 since there is a
> > second
> > > trim tab. I am cutting mine in from the inside to make them
even
> > > smoother....and since I haven't primered or attached the
tailcone
> > > side skins yet, I can drill and dimple prior to attaching when
> > > reaching them could be a real issue. Also, the plans call for
> > > attaching the solenoid......but I don't think it's included in
the
> > > kit at this point. Does it come later? Or do you have to
provide
> > > your own?
> > >
> > > Pete
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV10/
> >
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Author: "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 12:49 pm PST Link
You really only need 2, but if you chose to try to add a fairing on
the trim tab cables, you would need 4. I have looked at the slot on
the trim tab inspection plates several times, and have not decided
what to do with it yet. I do know this, I'm going to remove the LP4-
3's and replace them with flush rivets. I'll have to countersink
the steel cable holder, and then dimple the skins, but I think it
would look much better once done...so then the decision, to add a
fairing or not.....and then the bigger question......are the ones
from Avery used for the rudder cables big enough? I'll take a
second look and let you know what I come up with.
Pete
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@b...> wrote:
> Pete,
>
> I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
> appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3
(one
> spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable
exit?
> I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
>
> Bob
Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Mon Feb 2, 2004 1:02 pm PST Link
Thanks. I was trying to figure out how you were using 4 of the
fairings for the rudder cables, thus the confusion. I'll be
interesting in seeing how your inspection plates come out. I did
mine per plans and just moved on. I was wondering why the plans
called for LP4-3s instead of solid rivets but...
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "rv7pete" <RV10Pete@m...> wrote:
> You really only need 2, but if you chose to try to add a fairing on
> the trim tab cables, you would need 4. I have looked at the slot
on
> the trim tab inspection plates several times, and have not decided
> what to do with it yet. I do know this, I'm going to remove the
LP4-
> 3's and replace them with flush rivets. I'll have to countersink
> the steel cable holder, and then dimple the skins, but I think it
> would look much better once done...so then the decision, to add a
> fairing or not.....and then the bigger question......are the ones
> from Avery used for the rudder cables big enough? I'll take a
> second look and let you know what I come up with.
>
> Pete
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@b...> wrote:
> > Pete,
> >
> > I was just getting ready to order the fairings from Avery and it
> > appears that you use one per cable exit and the kit includes 3
> (one
> > spare). Is that incorrect and you actually need 2 per cable
> exit?
> > I'm trying to figure out the need for 4.
> >
> > Bob