Author: "luap71" <luap71@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:34 pm PST Link
Two questions about that.
1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
believe?
thanks in advance.
-paul
Author: "Bob Condrey" <bob.condrey@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:40 pm PST Link
Paul,
Van's lists the max gross weight as 2700 and the empty weight as 1600
pounds. Assuming that you actually come in at that weight, you'll
have an 1100 pound useful load. At 6 pounds per gallon you'll be
carrying 360 pounds of gas leaving a payload of 740 pounds. Here's
the page with the official aircraft specs:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10spe.htm
I don't recall seeing the actual empty weight of the prototype. On
second thought, I'm not sure that how much it would mean anyway. It
has leather seats and is equipped for VFR only. It also had some
additional equipment to support flight test like a data recorder.
There was also a spin chute attached at one point and I don't know if
that required any additional beef-up to the tail structure.
Bob
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "luap71" <luap71@y...> wrote:
> Two questions about that.
>
> 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
>
> 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
> believe?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> -paul
Author: "Kirby Koetz" <kkoetz@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:53 pm PST Link
6lbs/gal=360lbs-1100=730lbs useful
luap71 wrote:
> Two questions about that.
>
> 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
>
> 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
> believe?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> -paul
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Author: "pjkelly5555" <pkelly251@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:54 pm PST Link
Here is what I get
Gross weight 2700
Empty weight 1600
Usefull load 1100
Fuel Weight
(60 gal x 6 lbs) 360
Useful load less fuel weight = 740 lbs.
This will vary depending on the actual empty wieght of you RV 10.
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "luap71" <luap71@y...> wrote:
> Two questions about that.
>
> 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
>
> 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
> believe?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> -paul
Author: Steve Waltner <swaltner@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:54 pm PST Link
On Jan 22, 2004, at 2:50 PM, luap71 wrote:
> Two questions about that.
>
> 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
>
> 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
> believe?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> -paul
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10spe.htm
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Author: "Lance" <lryahoo@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:08 pm PST Link
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "luap71" <luap71@y...> wrote:
> Two questions about that.
>
> 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds right?
>
> 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel tanks, 60 gallons I
> believe?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> -paul
2700 pounds minus whatever your plane weighs. If you have a full
panel and plush interior (like I hope to have), that will likely be a
bit less than 1100.
That being said... 60 gallon tanks, yes. Remember that few pilots
fill their tanks right to the caps. Most pilots I know will ask their
fueller to leave an inch or so of "neck" or to just "fill it to the
tabs", unless they specifically request otherwise. That last inch of
fuel is quite a bit... in the RV-10, it could be as much as ten
gallons. So, assuming you adhere to this practice (and it's up to YOU
to visually verify your fuel-fill levels as part of your preflight
and after every refuelling), if you have a "light IFR" panel, I would
guess 2700 (gross) - 1640 (plane, realistic weight) - 300 (50 gallons
fuel) = 760 pounds or so.
Your mileage (and W&B calcs) WILL vary.
Author: Paul Besing <pbesing@...> Time: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:36 pm PST Link
It also depends on what Gross Weight you set your
plane at. Remember, you are the builder and can set
your GW anywhere you want to. Van's recommends 2700,
and it shoudld be a guidline. We don't have much to
go on with this plane, but the RV-6 was 1600, and many
people had 1800 lb gross weights. Mine was 1750 I
think.
This being a different plane, there may or may not be
much fudge room. CG, wing loading, etc, etc, will all
play on where you can set your CG. When I build mine,
I plan on setting at 2700, then doing additional
flight testing to determine how much more I can go and
still remain within CG as fuel is burned. This is an
envelope that should not be readily exceeded without
caution, but it can be done safely. Off the record,
the folks at Van's will tell you all day long that the
RV-6 will fly at 1800 pounds, as long as you are
loaded properly. (Without a CS, I don't think you
could do it, though). On the record, they need to
have the limit set somewhere, which is usually pretty
conservative.
I'm sure Van's will have a better idea on how much of
this can be fudged after they have more than one bird
flying.
Paul Besing
--- Lance <lryahoo@a...> wrote:
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "luap71" <luap71@y...>
> wrote:
> > Two questions about that.
> >
> > 1. What is the total useful load, 1100 pounds
> right?
> >
> > 2. What is the total useful load with full fuel
> tanks, 60 gallons I
> > believe?
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> > -paul
> 2700 pounds minus whatever your plane weighs. If you
> have a full
> panel and plush interior (like I hope to have), that
> will likely be a
> bit less than 1100.
>
> That being said... 60 gallon tanks, yes. Remember
> that few pilots
> fill their tanks right to the caps. Most pilots I
> know will ask their
> fueller to leave an inch or so of "neck" or to just
> "fill it to the
> tabs", unless they specifically request otherwise.
> That last inch of
> fuel is quite a bit... in the RV-10, it could be as
> much as ten
> gallons. So, assuming you adhere to this practice
> (and it's up to YOU
> to visually verify your fuel-fill levels as part of
> your preflight
> and after every refuelling), if you have a "light
> IFR" panel, I would
> guess 2700 (gross) - 1640 (plane, realistic weight)
> - 300 (50 gallons
> fuel) = 760 pounds or so.
>
> Your mileage (and W&B calcs) WILL vary.
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