Author: "James McClow" <james@...> Time: Sun Aug 8, 2004 7:50 am PDT Link
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654762,00.
html this is great. I was reading Vansairforce.net post this morning and got
this across my screen. This is pretty impressive. It also says the finish
kits will start shipping in September.It is Fortune magazine meeting Van and
discussing his past, present and future. He has really created a monster.
This is great! We are all a part of it!
James 191
Wings.drilling and drilling and drilling and priming and more drilling.....
http://www.romeovictor.com <http://www.romeovictor.com/>
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From: Bob Condrey [mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM
To: RV10@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV10] Re: Wing wiring route question
I think I'm missing something - is the reason for tubing/conduit to
be able to more easily run future wiring or is there a major downside
using the recommended hole location and snap bushings?
In the left wing I ran the 2 AOA tubes along with wires for pitot
heat, gray Whelen strobe wire, RG-400 for a wingtip nav antenna, a
wire for position lights and wire for landing/taxi lights. There's
also the 2 #18 wires for the stall switch (yes, I installed it even
though I've got the AOA). I used the -8 instead of -7 snap bushings
and the fit inboard of the pitot tube was snug but not unreasonable.
I also included a run of fishing line just in case I need to pull
something later.
Bob #40105
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...> wrote:
> Tom,
> The clear plastic tubing has a fairly thick wall so will probably
not
> add any additional protection. I didn't snug the tie wraps
(drilled
> small hole in the ribs to pass the tie wrap through) down real
tight
> in the left wing so as not to crimp the AOA tubes. Would welcome
any
> sugguestions for additional protection.
>
> Mark
> -- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Ricks <rv10fan2003@y...> wrote:
> > Mark:
> > Sounds like a well thought-out plan. Question: do you do anything
> at the attach points of the clear plastic tubing and the lightening
> holes to preclude the possibility of the tubing wearing down due to
> vibration??
> > Thanks.
> > Tom in LA
> >
> > "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...> wrote:
> > I ran the a/p roll servo wiring from the wing root through a
clear
> > plastic tube (Home Depot) through the lighting holes to the servo
> > located at the bellcrank. In that I put the servo in the right
wing
> I
> > routed the heated pitot tube wiring with the AOA tubes in the
left
> > wing. Will attach the clear plastic tubes to the ribs with tie
> > wraps. All wiring going to the wing tips (landing/taxi lights,
> > strobe/position lights, nav antenna)were routed in a clear
plastic
> > tube throught the lighting holes in the ribs. Terminated all
wires
> at
> > the wing root and added quick disconnect. If wing ever needs to
> come
> > off the connection at the wing root will make the job a lot
easier.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "jaybrinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > I spent a couple hours yesterday drilling conduit holes in my
> wing
> > > ribs. One hole is for wing tip strobes, antennas, etc. Another
> hole
> > > is for pitot tube routing. Does anyone have any insight on
where
> > > (if?) an additional hole should be located for roll servo????
> > Photos
> > > would be great! Can I simply put this off until later in the
wing
> > > build process?
> > >
> > > Related question for heated pitot... does it require yet
another
> > > hole or is there some way to bundle into the main conduit????
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jay
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Author: "townsetm" <yooper@...> Time: Sun Aug 8, 2004 11:43 am PDT Link
James:
Your link didn't work for me, but I snooped around and found the
aricle just using
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles
TDT
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "James McClow" <james@m...> wrote:
>
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,6547
62,00.
> html this is great. I was reading Vansairforce.net post this
morning and got
> this across my screen. This is pretty impressive. It also says the
finish
> kits will start shipping in September.It is Fortune magazine
meeting Van and
> discussing his past, present and future. He has really created a
monster.
> This is great! We are all a part of it!
>
> James 191
> Wings.drilling and drilling and drilling and priming and more
drilling.....
> http://www.romeovictor.com <http://www.romeovictor.com/>
>
> _____
>
> From: Bob Condrey [mailto:bob.condrey@b...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM
> To: RV10@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RV10] Re: Wing wiring route question
>
> I think I'm missing something - is the reason for tubing/conduit to
> be able to more easily run future wiring or is there a major
downside
> using the recommended hole location and snap bushings?
>
> In the left wing I ran the 2 AOA tubes along with wires for pitot
> heat, gray Whelen strobe wire, RG-400 for a wingtip nav antenna, a
> wire for position lights and wire for landing/taxi lights. There's
> also the 2 #18 wires for the stall switch (yes, I installed it even
> though I've got the AOA). I used the -8 instead of -7 snap
bushings
> and the fit inboard of the pitot tube was snug but not
unreasonable.
> I also included a run of fishing line just in case I need to pull
> something later.
>
> Bob #40105
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...>
wrote:
> > Tom,
> > The clear plastic tubing has a fairly thick wall so will probably
> not
> > add any additional protection. I didn't snug the tie wraps
> (drilled
> > small hole in the ribs to pass the tie wrap through) down real
> tight
> > in the left wing so as not to crimp the AOA tubes. Would welcome
> any
> > sugguestions for additional protection.
> >
> > Mark
> > -- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Ricks <rv10fan2003@y...> wrote:
> > > Mark:
> > > Sounds like a well thought-out plan. Question: do you do
anything
> > at the attach points of the clear plastic tubing and the
lightening
> > holes to preclude the possibility of the tubing wearing down due
to
> > vibration??
> > > Thanks.
> > > Tom in LA
> > >
> > > "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...> wrote:
> > > I ran the a/p roll servo wiring from the wing root through a
> clear
> > > plastic tube (Home Depot) through the lighting holes to the
servo
> > > located at the bellcrank. In that I put the servo in the right
> wing
> > I
> > > routed the heated pitot tube wiring with the AOA tubes in the
> left
> > > wing. Will attach the clear plastic tubes to the ribs with tie
> > > wraps. All wiring going to the wing tips (landing/taxi lights,
> > > strobe/position lights, nav antenna)were routed in a clear
> plastic
> > > tube throught the lighting holes in the ribs. Terminated all
> wires
> > at
> > > the wing root and added quick disconnect. If wing ever needs
to
> > come
> > > off the connection at the wing root will make the job a lot
> easier.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "jaybrinkmeyer"
<jaybrinkmeyer@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I spent a couple hours yesterday drilling conduit holes in my
> > wing
> > > > ribs. One hole is for wing tip strobes, antennas, etc.
Another
> > hole
> > > > is for pitot tube routing. Does anyone have any insight on
> where
> > > > (if?) an additional hole should be located for roll servo????
> > > Photos
> > > > would be great! Can I simply put this off until later in the
> wing
> > > > build process?
> > > >
> > > > Related question for heated pitot... does it require yet
> another
> > > > hole or is there some way to bundle into the main conduit????
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jay
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Author: thomas hobbes <doublecheckvalve@...> Time: Sun Aug 8, 2004 10:26 pm PDT Link
The article surprised me in one way, here's the
quote:
Van's most popular model, the RV-7, sells for
$17,000, with the engine and other components
adding another $40,000. A comparable
factory-built plane costs two to three times as
much.
1) They make comparable production GA aircraft?
2) You can get them for 104k?
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Author: "jaybrinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@...> Time: Mon Aug 9, 2004 3:37 pm PDT Link
Link no workie...
--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "James McClow" <james@m...> wrote:
>
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654
762,00.
> html this is great. I was reading Vansairforce.net post this
morning and got
> this across my screen. This is pretty impressive. It also says the
finish
> kits will start shipping in September.It is Fortune magazine
meeting Van and
> discussing his past, present and future. He has really created a
monster.
> This is great! We are all a part of it!
>
> James 191
> Wings.drilling and drilling and drilling and priming and more
drilling.....
> http://www.romeovictor.com <http://www.romeovictor.com/>
>
> _____
>
> From: Bob Condrey [mailto:bob.condrey@b...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM
> To: RV10@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RV10] Re: Wing wiring route question
>
> I think I'm missing something - is the reason for tubing/conduit
to
> be able to more easily run future wiring or is there a major
downside
> using the recommended hole location and snap bushings?
>
> In the left wing I ran the 2 AOA tubes along with wires for pitot
> heat, gray Whelen strobe wire, RG-400 for a wingtip nav antenna, a
> wire for position lights and wire for landing/taxi lights.
There's
> also the 2 #18 wires for the stall switch (yes, I installed it
even
> though I've got the AOA). I used the -8 instead of -7 snap
bushings
> and the fit inboard of the pitot tube was snug but not
unreasonable.
> I also included a run of fishing line just in case I need to pull
> something later.
>
> Bob #40105
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...>
wrote:
> > Tom,
> > The clear plastic tubing has a fairly thick wall so will
probably
> not
> > add any additional protection. I didn't snug the tie wraps
> (drilled
> > small hole in the ribs to pass the tie wrap through) down real
> tight
> > in the left wing so as not to crimp the AOA tubes. Would welcome
> any
> > sugguestions for additional protection.
> >
> > Mark
> > -- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Ricks <rv10fan2003@y...>
wrote:
> > > Mark:
> > > Sounds like a well thought-out plan. Question: do you do
anything
> > at the attach points of the clear plastic tubing and the
lightening
> > holes to preclude the possibility of the tubing wearing down due
to
> > vibration??
> > > Thanks.
> > > Tom in LA
> > >
> > > "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...> wrote:
> > > I ran the a/p roll servo wiring from the wing root through a
> clear
> > > plastic tube (Home Depot) through the lighting holes to the
servo
> > > located at the bellcrank. In that I put the servo in the right
> wing
> > I
> > > routed the heated pitot tube wiring with the AOA tubes in the
> left
> > > wing. Will attach the clear plastic tubes to the ribs with
tie
> > > wraps. All wiring going to the wing tips (landing/taxi
lights,
> > > strobe/position lights, nav antenna)were routed in a clear
> plastic
> > > tube throught the lighting holes in the ribs. Terminated all
> wires
> > at
> > > the wing root and added quick disconnect. If wing ever needs
to
> > come
> > > off the connection at the wing root will make the job a lot
> easier.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "jaybrinkmeyer"
<jaybrinkmeyer@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I spent a couple hours yesterday drilling conduit holes in
my
> > wing
> > > > ribs. One hole is for wing tip strobes, antennas, etc.
Another
> > hole
> > > > is for pitot tube routing. Does anyone have any insight on
> where
> > > > (if?) an additional hole should be located for roll
servo????
> > > Photos
> > > > would be great! Can I simply put this off until later in the
> wing
> > > > build process?
> > > >
> > > > Related question for heated pitot... does it require yet
> another
> > > > hole or is there some way to bundle into the main conduit????
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jay
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Author: Tim Olson <tim@...> Time: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:39 am PDT Link
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654762,00.html
Here's the link to that fortune mag article....I don't think my email
prog. will kill the word wrapping. Go Mozilla!
Tim
jaybrinkmeyer wrote:
> Link no workie...
>
> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "James McClow" <james@m...> wrote:
>
> http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654
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Author: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@...> Time: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:37 am PDT Link
This took me right to it.
<http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654>http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi<http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654>/articles
At 09:45 PM 8/9/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Link no workie...
>
>--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "James McClow" <james@m...> wrote:
> >
><http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654>http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654
>762,00.
> > html this is great. I was reading Vansairforce.net post this
>morning and got
> > this across my screen. This is pretty impressive. It also says the
>finish
> > kits will start shipping in September.It is Fortune magazine
>meeting Van and
> > discussing his past, present and future. He has really created a
>monster.
> > This is great! We are all a part of it!
> >
> > James 191
> > Wings.drilling and drilling and drilling and priming and more
>drilling.....
> > <http://www.romeovictor.com>http://www.romeovictor.com
> <http://www.romeovictor.com/>
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Bob Condrey [mailto:bob.condrey@b...]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM
> > To: RV10@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [RV10] Re: Wing wiring route question
> >
> > I think I'm missing something - is the reason for tubing/conduit
>to
> > be able to more easily run future wiring or is there a major
>downside
> > using the recommended hole location and snap bushings?
> >
> > In the left wing I ran the 2 AOA tubes along with wires for pitot
> > heat, gray Whelen strobe wire, RG-400 for a wingtip nav antenna, a
> > wire for position lights and wire for landing/taxi lights.
>There's
> > also the 2 #18 wires for the stall switch (yes, I installed it
>even
> > though I've got the AOA). I used the -8 instead of -7 snap
>bushings
> > and the fit inboard of the pitot tube was snug but not
>unreasonable.
> > I also included a run of fishing line just in case I need to pull
> > something later.
> >
> > Bob #40105
> > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...>
>wrote:
> > > Tom,
> > > The clear plastic tubing has a fairly thick wall so will
>probably
> > not
> > > add any additional protection. I didn't snug the tie wraps
> > (drilled
> > > small hole in the ribs to pass the tie wrap through) down real
> > tight
> > > in the left wing so as not to crimp the AOA tubes. Would welcome
> > any
> > > sugguestions for additional protection.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > -- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Ricks <rv10fan2003@y...>
>wrote:
> > > > Mark:
> > > > Sounds like a well thought-out plan. Question: do you do
>anything
> > > at the attach points of the clear plastic tubing and the
>lightening
> > > holes to preclude the possibility of the tubing wearing down due
>to
> > > vibration??
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > Tom in LA
> > > >
> > > > "Mark T. Ritter" <mritter509@m...> wrote:
> > > > I ran the a/p roll servo wiring from the wing root through a
> > clear
> > > > plastic tube (Home Depot) through the lighting holes to the
>servo
> > > > located at the bellcrank. In that I put the servo in the right
> > wing
> > > I
> > > > routed the heated pitot tube wiring with the AOA tubes in the
> > left
> > > > wing. Will attach the clear plastic tubes to the ribs with
>tie
> > > > wraps. All wiring going to the wing tips (landing/taxi
>lights,
> > > > strobe/position lights, nav antenna)were routed in a clear
> > plastic
> > > > tube throught the lighting holes in the ribs. Terminated all
> > wires
> > > at
> > > > the wing root and added quick disconnect. If wing ever needs
>to
> > > come
> > > > off the connection at the wing root will make the job a lot
> > easier.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "jaybrinkmeyer"
><jaybrinkmeyer@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I spent a couple hours yesterday drilling conduit holes in
>my
> > > wing
> > > > > ribs. One hole is for wing tip strobes, antennas, etc.
>Another
> > > hole
> > > > > is for pitot tube routing. Does anyone have any insight on
> > where
> > > > > (if?) an additional hole should be located for roll
>servo????
> > > > Photos
> > > > > would be great! Can I simply put this off until later in the
> > wing
> > > > > build process?
> > > > >
> > > > > Related question for heated pitot... does it require yet
> > another
> > > > > hole or is there some way to bundle into the main conduit????
> > > > >
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