Author: Dan Masys <dmasys@...> Time: Fri Aug 17, 2001 2:42 pm PDT Link
At 09:17 PM 8/17/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Are there any pictures available showing the construction steps of
>the empannage? They say a picture is worth a thousand words (or
>drilled rivets...)
I just got the George & Becky Orndorff video on how to construct the
pre-punched empennage (see http://www.fly-gbi.com/menu.htm). It gives you
30 pictures per second for about two hours, with sound. :-) It is well
worth the bucks for a first-time builder.
Or if you just want stills, try Phil Birkelbach's nice RV-7 construction
site at http://www.myrv7.com/
I am accumulating digital pictures of a few tricks and tips for the HS
construciton and have the URL for a website, but can't stop building long
enough to get some content up there! Soon...
Dan Masys
Riveting HS skins on RV7A N868DM San Diego, CA
Author: Bob Collins <bcollins@...> Time: Fri Aug 17, 2001 3:21 pm PDT Link
One of the interesting things I've found in VERY preliminary (and quite
often frustrating) construction is using all of the various sources to try
to figure out what everybody's talking about. I've found the videos to be
very good. The only complaint I have is that George will hold up a part -
the 610s and the 614s come to mind - and say offhand, "these are just as
per the manual." Well..the reason I went scampering back into the house,
threw my 13 year old off the couch, turned off the baseball game, stuck in
the video screaming, "I've got to figure out what to do!" is because the
manual was making my head hurt.....the ISOs showed left is right and right
is left and up is down.... oy!
I also found Phil's site to be interesting, but made note of this:
"After much head scratching on why the manual and the drawings did not seem
to match up on trimming of the HS-602 forward spar channels I did some
searching on the RV-List. The problem stems from the fact that the manual
says to trim the flanges off of the channel but to leave the radius on. The
plans seem to show that the part of the channel that is left is flat. After
some research I figured that the radius was left to leave some extra metal
on the channel for rivet clearances. Leave the radius and then flatten it
out before bending the spar. "
I point out that out because if you look at the video, George holds up the
60s and he's got it all cut down with, at least I didn't think, no
radius...I think he even made a point to get rid of the radius. And the
manual just says "leave as much of the Web as you can." Yeah, um, thanks.
Just last week, I shoved everything back in the box after getting a little
frustrated (for now) after working on the 610, 614s. The killer...when to
bend, and when to drill the holes. If you read the manual, it says "it's
best to drill the holes before trimming...." . So.... drill the holes.
Wrong. Later down in the manual - about 3 paragraphs actually - it says
"don't drill the holes on the bend." The video also makes that point. Then
I got screwed up with when to bend. I got differing - but nowhere near
conclusive - opinions. And, finally, I layed out the 602s and EVERYBODY
said there would be a gap. But on mine, there was no gap (so I figured I
must've screwedup).
My point is that you often have to go to several sources that often say
conflicting things and generally decide who you believe more at that
particular point. There's also the danger of out-and-out information overload.
I'm thinking at this point that the first person to rewrite the manual and
writes a really lonnnnnnngggg narrative to accompany the ISOs, that
incorporates a lot of the stuff available online, and the best of the
videos, can make a lot of money.
One other question I have. After I finish building this thing....what do I
own more of value-wise....airplanes....or tools? <g>
Bob
At 02:35 PM 8/17/01 -0700, Dan Masys wrote:
>http://www.myrv7.com/