Author: steve@... Time: Mon Aug 20, 2001 5:49 am PDT Link
I purchased mine at Brown Aviation Tool Supply. To my knowledge they
have the best price... $.31 each:
http://www.browntool.com
BTW, How many did you order and how many do you think you need?
--- In RV7and7A@y..., Bobby Hester <bhester@a...> wrote:
> Got to order some more clecos, who has them at the lowest price?
> I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't find it now :-(
>
> --
> Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-
hoptown/RVSite/
> Starting RV7A empannage :-)
Author: Rob_Prior@... Time: Mon Aug 20, 2001 10:25 am PDT Link
Disclaimer: I don't even have my tail kit yet, but have been
amassing information on tools in anticipation.
A six-time RV builder (Brian Carr, for any of you who may know
him) told me that you don't need the number of Cleco's that Vans
calls out in his tool list. Brian recommends that you only buy 200
of the 3/32" and 100 of the 1/8", not 325 and 175 as
recommended.
He says that he bought the recommended numbers, and he
can't recall ever using more than "about half" of the clecos he
had at any one time. He's built three RV-4's, an RV-6A, an RV-8,
and is now building a Rocket, so he's run the gamut in terms of
kit complexity.
Anyone else have different thoughts?
-RB4
--- In RV7and7A@y..., steve@s... wrote:
> I purchased mine at Brown Aviation Tool Supply. To my
knowledge they
> have the best price... $.31 each:
>
> http://www.browntool.com
>
> BTW, How many did you order and how many do you think you
need?
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., Bobby Hester <bhester@a...> wrote:
> > Got to order some more clecos, who has them at the lowest
price?
> > I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't find it now
:-(
> >
> > --
> > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-
> hoptown/RVSite/
> > Starting RV7A empannage :-)
Author: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis@...> Time: Mon Aug 20, 2001 11:28 am PDT Link
The number of Cleco's you need depend on several things. The fact the Brian Carr has built so many planes and only needs 200 at any one time, tells me that he has built several planes and knows how to maximize his usage of tools and build efficiently. Most of us on the other hand, haven't built any airplanes before and don't always know the best wayto approach things.
Do you plan on building one wing at a timeor two? Big difference. Will you be using one cleco every other hole of every two holes or every third hole? Again, big difference. With the newer kits where everything is prepunched using cleco's every other hole might bea waste of time and cleco's.
In my case I built both wings at the same time and I like to hold off riveting until I'm positive I won't need to pull a particular piece of skin off "just one more time to get at something". I orderedthe recommended number of cleco's and while the 1/8 cleco's has been fine, I got another 300 or so 3/32 cleco's from another local builder in order to build the parts in the sequence that I did.
On my -6 there is no way that only 200 3/32 cleco's would have been sufficient. Take a look at my web site to get an ideaof what two wings in progress looks like. Take a look toward the middle and bottom of the page to see what I mean.
http://bmnellis.com/WingSkinning2.htm (http://bmnellis.com/wingskinning2.htm)
Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com (http://bmnellis.com)
Plainfield, IL
RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
A six-time RV builder (Brian Carr, for any of you who may know
him) told me that you don't need the number of Cleco's that Vans
calls out in his tool list. Brian recommends that you only buy 200
of the 3/32" and 100 of the 1/8", not 325 and 175 as
recommended.
He says that he bought the recommended numbers, and he
can't recall ever using more than "about half" of the clecos he
had at any one time. He's built three RV-4's, an RV-6A, an RV-8,
and is now building a Rocket, so he's run the gamut in terms of
kit complexity.
Anyone else have different thoughts?
-RB4
--- In RV7and7A@y..., steve@s... wrote:
> I purchased mine at Brown Aviation Tool Supply. To my
knowledge they
> have the best price... $.31 each:
>
> http://www.browntool.com (http://www.browntool.com)
>
> BTW, How many did you order and how many do you think you
need?
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., Bobby Hester <bhester@a...> wrote:
> > Got to order some more clecos, who has them at the lowest
price?
> > I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't find it now
:-(
> >
> > --
> > Surfing the Webfrom Hopkinsville, KY
> > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester- (http://www.geocities.com/hester-)
> hoptown/RVSite/
> > Starting RV7A empannage :-)
Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
www.vansaircraft.net
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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Mon Aug 20, 2001 7:08 pm PDT Link
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> steve@s... wrote: I purchased mine at Brown Aviation Tool Supply. To my knowledge they
have the best price... $.31 each:
http://www.browntool.com (http://www.browntool.com)
BTW, How many did you order and how many do you think you need?
(end of quote)
Your right I found the ad later that night they are the cheapest, but I needed some more tools so I just ordered them from Cleveland. I had about 60, so I ordered another 100 for now I'll order more as I need them.
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ (http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/rvsite/)
Starting RV7A empannage :-)
Author: "MaxHegler" <MaxHegler@...> Time: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:50 pm PDT Link
Bobby,
I have found the best online prices at Brown Tools. They are also some
of the highest quality ones I have found. They are usually 31 cents each.
http://www.browntool.com/tableofcontents.asp
Take Care,
Max
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@a...>
To: "RV7and7A" <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: [RV7and7A] Best Prices on clecos?
> Got to order some more clecos, who has them at the lowest price?
> I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't find it now :-(
>
> --
> Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> Starting RV7A empannage :-)
> Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> www.vansaircraft.net
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Author: "Peter W Mountain" <peterm@...> Time: Wed Aug 22, 2001 12:00 pm PDT Link
They have also put together an "RV builders toolkit" for me that is
significantly cheaper than Avery Tools.
Speak to Mike Brown on 1-800-587-3883, he is a true gentleman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MaxHegler [mailto:MaxHegler@m...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 5:53 AM
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RV7and7A] Best Prices on clecos?
> Bobby,
> I have found the best online prices at Brown Tools. They are
> also some
> of the highest quality ones I have found. They are usually 31 cents each.
>
> http://www.browntool.com/tableofcontents.asp
>
> Take Care,
> Max
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@a...>
> To: "RV7and7A" <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:26 AM
> Subject: [RV7and7A] Best Prices on clecos?
> > Got to order some more clecos, who has them at the lowest price?
> > I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't find it now :-(
> >
> > --
> > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> > Starting RV7A empannage :-)
> > Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> > www.vansaircraft.net
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> www.vansaircraft.net
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Author: stacy pervis <spervis@...> Time: Wed Aug 22, 2001 1:19 pm PDT Link
--- Peter W Mountain <peterm@c...> wrote:
> They have also put together an "RV builders toolkit"
> for me that is
> significantly cheaper than Avery Tools.
>
> Speak to Mike Brown on 1-800-587-3883, he is a true
> gentleman.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MaxHegler [mailto:MaxHegler@m...]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 5:53 AM
> > To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RV7and7A] Best Prices on clecos?
> > Bobby,
> > I have found the best online prices at Brown
> Tools. They are
> > also some
> > of the highest quality ones I have found. They
> are usually 31 cents each.
> >
> > http://www.browntool.com/tableofcontents.asp
> >
> > Take Care,
> > Max
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@a...>
> > To: "RV7and7A" <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:26 AM
> > Subject: [RV7and7A] Best Prices on clecos?
> > > Got to order some more clecos, who has them at
> the lowest price?
> > > I saw an ad somewhere a few weeks ago but can't
> find it now :-(
> > >
> > > --
> > > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> > > Visit my web site at:
> http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> > > Starting RV7A empannage :-)
> > > Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> > > www.vansaircraft.net
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> > www.vansaircraft.net
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
i buy clecos from u.s. tools and they are .28 cents
each for either size sold new,not used.
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