Author: John Rott <drjohn108@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 10:11 am PDT Link
The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
band saw for cutting out parts.
Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
John (drjohn108@y...)
Author: kholcomb@... Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 10:44 am PDT Link
Hello John,
I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a bench-top band saw. I
think the band saw to be capable of both light/fine work and heavy
work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges. I used the scroll
for balsa models but in recent years have used the band saw only.
Ken Holcomb
--- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> band saw for cutting out parts.
>
> Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
> aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
>
> John (drjohn108@y...)
Author: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 10:51 am PDT Link
there will be some areas where a scroll saw might come in hand (square holes etc) but not many. I had a need for a coping saw the other night to cute a hole in the aileron spar for the electric aileron trim and even with the finest toothed blade is was kind of a pain. Perma Grit makes a blade for scroll and coping saws that would have been a big help.
I'd go with he band saw and the finest wood blade you can get. There are some bracket to cute on the -6 that would have bogged down a scroll saw. I've got an oddball size saw and can't findany metal cutting blades for it so I use a 9 tpi blade and it goes right through the aluminum.
Mike
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From: John Rott (mailto:drjohn108@y...)
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Subject: [RV7and7A] scroll saw
The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
band saw for cutting out parts.
Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
John (drjohn108@y... (mailto:drjohn108@y...))
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Author: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 11:05 am PDT Link
Give Sears a try, they have a pretty good selection.
Mike Nellis - http://bmnellis.com (http://bmnellis.com)
Plainfield, IL
RV6 N699BM (res) Building Flaps
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
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From: steve@s... (mailto:steve@s...)
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com (mailto:rv7and7a@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: [RV7and7A] Re: scroll saw
John,
I think you would be better off with a band saw. I did some research
on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally back up again)
and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
BTW, does anyone know where I can get metal cutting blades. I have a
9" band saw that takes 59 1/4" blades. Home Depot doesnot carry
them. They have some metal cutting blades, but they're too big. Any
help would be appreciated.
--- In RV7and7A@y..., kholcomb@e... wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a bench-top band saw.
I
> think the band saw to be capable of both light/fine work and heavy
> work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges. I used the scroll
> for balsa models but in recent years have used the band saw only.
>
> Ken Holcomb
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> > band saw for cutting out parts.
> >
> > Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
> > aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
> >
> > John (drjohn108@y...)
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Author: "Kevin Haslebacher" <khaslebacher@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 11:25 am PDT Link
I found some at Lowes Home Center and my local True Value Hardware. Can't
remember the brand name, but they are the size you are looking for and have
worked well.
Kevin Haslebacher
-----Original Message-----
From: steve@s... [mailto:steve@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:56 AM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV7and7A] Re: scroll saw
John,
I think you would be better off with a band saw. I did some research
on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally back up again)
and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
BTW, does anyone know where I can get metal cutting blades. I have a
9" band saw that takes 59 1/4" blades. Home Depot does not carry
them. They have some metal cutting blades, but they're too big. Any
help would be appreciated.
--- In RV7and7A@y..., kholcomb@e... wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a bench-top band saw.
I
> think the band saw to be capable of both light/fine work and heavy
> work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges. I used the scroll
> for balsa models but in recent years have used the band saw only.
>
> Ken Holcomb
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> > band saw for cutting out parts.
> >
> > Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
> > aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
> >
> > John (drjohn108@y...)
Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
www.vansaircraft.net
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Author: "Deene Ogden" <deene@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 12:45 pm PDT Link
Yep, the bandsaw is pretty much the way to go for cutting aluminum
stock other than sheet material. I don't think the woodcutting scroll
saw would work.
Just in case someone misses the situation here, any reasonable wood
cutting bandsaw does a nice job on aluminum (with a good blade with
as many teeth per inch as possible and slowest speed). However, for
steel (particularly 4130, commonly used on aircraft), a metal cutting
bandsaw is necessary. Many of us on limited budgets, have a Craftsman
or Delta for the wood/Al and a cheap (Harbor Freight) 5x6 metal cutoff
bandsaw for the occasional steel job.
Of course, with the newer kits and the quickbuilds', little steel cutting
is
required. I just remember (painfully) cutting 3 18"x18" 4130 1/8" sheets
into small parts by hand hacksaw for my BD-4 project in the early
70's...I should have bought a good metal bandsaw. As a side comment,
as bad as Bede is criticized for the BD-5 fiasco, he really did figure the
"kitplane" concept out first...you really got everything to build a plane
in
one package. And he did publish a nice book to build with (later).
BTW, a nice tool for sheet stock is the 3-1 machine from China sold by
Harbor Freight (also Grizzly and Enco). The 30" model shears/bends/
rolls up to 0.032 Al very nicely and is handy for all the extra angles,
boxes,
panels that are not in the kit. They go on sale for $270-300 quite often.
Deene Ogden
BD-4 N99AD
One Design N199AD
RV-7A N799AD...maybe someday, gotta go reserve that number.
steve@s... on 08/28/2001 12:55:36 PM
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Subject: [RV7and7A] Re: scroll saw
John,
I think you would be better off with a band saw. I did some research
on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally back up again)
and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
BTW, does anyone know where I can get metal cutting blades. I have a
9" band saw that takes 59 1/4" blades. Home Depot does not carry
them. They have some metal cutting blades, but they're too big. Any
help would be appreciated.
--- In RV7and7A@y..., kholcomb@e... wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a bench-top band saw.
I
> think the band saw to be capable of both light/fine work and heavy
> work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges. I used the scroll
> for balsa models but in recent years have used the band saw only.
>
> Ken Holcomb
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> > band saw for cutting out parts.
> >
> > Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
> > aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
> >
> > John (drjohn108@y...)
Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
www.vansaircraft.net
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Author: "Daniel Masys, M.D." <dmasys@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 1:32 pm PDT Link
At 05:55 PM 8/28/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>I think you would be better off with a band saw. I did some research
>on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally back up again)
>and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
Having both a scroll saw and a band saw, I vote for the band saw. The
scroll saw makes rougher edges due to its up and down motion; the band saw
holds the work down and cuts smoothly through it. I bet the guy at Tool
Depot never worked much with aluminum or built an airplane.
> > --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> > > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> > > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> > > band saw for cutting out parts.
Dan Masys
Building rudder (hey John, thanks for the help with the clecoes ;-) ) on
RV7A N868DM, San Diego CA
Author: "Letourneau, David F SITI-IT-ISAA" <dfletourneau@...> Time: Tue Aug 28, 2001 1:45 pm PDT Link
Check out Sears. If I remember correctly they sell them.
David F. LeTourneau
Sr. Consultant
Shell Information Technology International
P O Box 2463, Houston, TX 77252-2453, United States of America
Tel: +1713-241-1859 N/A Other Tel: +1888-286-8851
Email: dfletourneau@s...
Internet: http://www.shell.com (http://www.shell.com/)
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: steve@s... [mailto:steve@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:56 PM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV7and7A] Re: scroll saw
John,
I think you would be better off with a band saw. I did some research
on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally back up again)
and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
BTW, does anyone know where I can get metal cutting blades. I have a
9" band saw that takes 59 1/4" blades. Home Depot does not carry
them. They have some metal cutting blades, but they're too big. Any
help would be appreciated.
--- In RV7and7A@y..., kholcomb@e... wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a bench-top band saw.
I
> think the band saw to be capable of both light/fine work and heavy
> work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges. I used the scroll
> for balsa models but in recent years have used the band saw only.
>
> Ken Holcomb
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...> wrote:
> > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that I
> > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a small
> > band saw for cutting out parts.
> >
> > Does a scroll saw really have enough power to cut
> > aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
> >
> > John (drjohn108@y...)
Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
www.vansaircraft.net
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Author: "Deene Ogden" <deene@...> Time: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:16 am PDT Link
Hi Milton. Yes, my 1-D flew (successfully) on Fri, July 13!
I'm working my way through the minor test problems (leaks,
etc.).
I too looked at the Sonex...was too little for me. I really like
the -7(A). I'm not sure how my wife will go for a third airplane
(project)...so I'll just follow the progress right now.
As far as the stock market, I too am waiting. I hoped to
retire (private information) this year, but now expect to spend
several more years here at IBM...besides they do treat me
nicely here.
Deene.
Milton Watson <milton_watson@y...> on 08/28/2001 07:20:25 PM
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Hello Deene,
I saw your post and just thought I'd say hi. I
heard that you have your One Design flying now. How
is it? I too am still hoping to build the RV7. I
went to Port Lavaca a couple of weeks ago and saw the
only Sonex that has been completed in Texas (I think),
and it looks like a toy next to the RV7. Now if only
the stock market will recover so that I can afford to
sell some stock and buy the RV7 kit.
CAVU,
Milt
--- Deene Ogden <deene@u...> wrote:
> Yep, the bandsaw is pretty much the way to go for
> cutting aluminum
> stock other than sheet material. I don't think the
> woodcutting scroll
> saw /would work.
>
> Just in case someone misses the situation here, any
> reasonable wood
> cutting bandsaw does a nice job on aluminum (with a
> good blade with
> as many teeth per inch as possible and slowest
> speed). However, for
> steel (particularly 4130, commonly used on
> aircraft), a metal cutting
> bandsaw is necessary. Many of us on limited
> budgets, have a Craftsman
> or Delta for the wood/Al and a cheap (Harbor
> Freight) 5x6 metal cutoff
> bandsaw for the occasional steel job.
>
> Of course, with the newer kits and the quickbuilds',
> little steel cutting
> is
> required. I just remember (painfully) cutting 3
> 18"x18" 4130 1/8" sheets
> into small parts by hand hacksaw for my BD-4 project
> in the early
> 70's...I should have bought a good metal bandsaw.
> As a side comment,
> as bad as Bede is criticized for the BD-5 fiasco, he
> really did figure the
> "kitplane" concept out first...you really got
> everything to build a plane
> in
> one package. And he did publish a nice book to
> build with (later).
>
> BTW, a nice tool for sheet stock is the 3-1 machine
> from China sold by
> Harbor Freight (also Grizzly and Enco). The 30"
> model shears/bends/
> rolls up to 0.032 Al very nicely and is handy for
> all the extra angles,
> boxes,
> panels that are not in the kit. They go on sale for
> $270-300 quite often.
>
> Deene Ogden
> BD-4 N99AD
> One Design N199AD
> RV-7A N799AD...maybe someday, gotta go reserve that
> number.
> steve@s... on 08/28/2001 12:55:36 PM
>
> Please respond to RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
>
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [RV7and7A] Re: scroll saw
> John,
>
> I think you would be better off with a band saw. I
> did some research
> on the RV-List (before it was down... it is finally
> back up again)
> and the concenses was to go with a band saw.
>
> BTW, does anyone know where I can get metal cutting
> blades. I have a
> 9" band saw that takes 59 1/4" blades. Home Depot
> does not carry
> them. They have some metal cutting blades, but
> they're too big. Any
> help would be appreciated.
>
> --- In RV7and7A@y..., kholcomb@e... wrote:
> > Hello John,
> >
> > I have a light-duty scroll saw (Dremel) and a
> bench-top band saw.
> I
> > think the band saw to be capable of both
> light/fine work and heavy
> > work. the scroll saw would only cut thin gauges.
> I used the scroll
> > for balsa models but in recent years have used the
> band saw only.
> >
> > Ken Holcomb
> >
> > --- In RV7and7A@y..., John Rott <drjohn108@y...>
> wrote:
> > > The guy at Tool Depot told me this weekend that
> I
> > > would be better off buying a scroll saw than a
> small
> > > band saw for cutting out parts.
> > >
> > > Does a scroll saw really have enough power to
> cut
> > > aluminum well? Are any of you using one?
> > >
> > > John (drjohn108@y...)
> Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> www.vansaircraft.net
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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