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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Sun Jan 20, 2002 5:16 pm PST Link

I take it I should just put this in a vice snug it down just enough to
hold it and run a 1/4 bit through it, best to do on the drill press?

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Author: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@...> Time: Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:04 am PST Link

Bobby,

I found the perfect tool for holding that bushing while you drill through it. The tubing flaring tool. It holds the bushing really tight and doesn't distort it. Don't put it in a vice, you'll distort the OD (outside diameter) of the bushing and the OD is the critical part, as that is the bearing surface, the inside is just to fit the bolt. I just clamped the bushing in the flaring tool and drilled it out with my air drill. Worked like a charm.

Godspeed,

Phil Birkelbach
RV-7 - N727WB (Reserved) - http://www.myrv7.com
Houston, Texas
Wings - Fuse ordered

Takeoffs are optional, Landings are mandatory.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby Hester
To: RV-List ; RV7and7A
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: [RV7and7A] Aileron Brass Bushing

I take it I should just put this in a vice snug it down just enough to
hold it and run a 1/4 bit through it, best to do on the drill press?

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Author: "Kevin Haslebacher" <khaslebacher@...> Time: Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:17 am PST Link

One method that has worked for me (since I didn't think of Phil's
suggestion) is to take two wooden blocks (2x4's) and I put them in the vise
to hold them together. I drilled into them on the end on the centerline of
the two pieces. I used a wood bit slightly smaller than the OD of the
bushing. Simply take them apart, insert the bushing and clamp it back in the
vice. The wood is soft and will not mare the exterior surface of the
bushing. Being a slightly undersized hole allows you to "hold" the bushing
tight. Then just drill the center. My $0.02 worth.

This is a great forum and I learn things everyday. Thanks to all of you who
post your good ideas. It helps us all.

Kevin
N742KH

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Birkelbach [mailto:phil@p...]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:04 AM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RV7and7A] Aileron Brass Bushing

Bobby,

I found the perfect tool for holding that bushing while you drill through
it. The tubing flaring tool. It holds the bushing really tight and doesn't
distort it. Don't put it in a vice, you'll distort the OD (outside
diameter) of the bushing and the OD is the critical part, as that is the
bearing surface, the inside is just to fit the bolt. I just clamped the
bushing in the flaring tool and drilled it out with my air drill. Worked
like a charm.

Godspeed,

Phil Birkelbach
RV-7 - N727WB (Reserved) - http://www.myrv7.com
Houston, Texas
Wings - Fuse ordered

Takeoffs are optional, Landings are mandatory.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby Hester
To: RV-List ; RV7and7A
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: [RV7and7A] Aileron Brass Bushing

I take it I should just put this in a vice snug it down just enough to
hold it and run a 1/4 bit through it, best to do on the drill press?

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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Mon Jan 21, 2002 7:24 pm PST Link

Phil Birkelbach wrote:

> Bobby,
>
> I found the perfect tool for holding that bushing while you drill
> through it. The tubing flaring tool. It holds the bushing really
> tight and doesn't distort it. Don't put it in a vice, you'll distort
> the OD (outside diameter) of the bushing and the OD is the critical
> part, as that is the bearing surface, the inside is just to fit the
> bolt. I just clamped the bushing in the flaring tool and drilled it
> out with my air drill. Worked like a charm.

Is that Flairing tool a must have later, and is the $79 one from
Cleveland the one, one should get?
I like the wood blocks idea!

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Author: Dan Masys <dmasys@...> Time: Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:23 pm PST Link

Bobby Hester wrote:

> Is that Flairing tool a must have later, and is the $79 one from
> Cleveland the one, one should get?
> I like the wood blocks idea!

I got the Parker flaring tool from Avery. Price sounds about the same
as the Cleaveland price, so it's probably the right one. You'll need a
37 degree (ie., aviation rather than Home Depot) flaring tool for the
tank vents and fuel pickup. I also used it on the Gretz pitot/static
tube lines and it looks like there will be a number of uses coming up.

So I think the flaring tool is in the category of a must-have unless you
have a local EAA chapter with tools for loan.

-Dan Masys
-7A wings

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Author: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@...> Time: Tue Jan 22, 2002 6:40 am PST Link

I am sure the wood blocks will work great. You will need the flaring tool to flare the vent lines inside the tank. I think that it is going to be a must have for fuel lines and such later, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I bought the Parker flaring tool from Avery $75. I work with people who bend tubing for a living and they told me that this was the best there is.

Phil Birkelbach
RV-7 - N727WB (Reserved) - http://www.myrv7.com
Houston, Texas
Wings - Fuse ordered

Takeoffs are optional, Landings are mandatory.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby Hester
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RV7and7A] Aileron Brass Bushing

Phil Birkelbach wrote:

> Bobby,
>
> I found the perfect tool for holding that bushing while you drill
> through it. The tubing flaring tool. It holds the bushing really
> tight and doesn't distort it. Don't put it in a vice, you'll distort
> the OD (outside diameter) of the bushing and the OD is the critical
> part, as that is the bearing surface, the inside is just to fit the
> bolt. I just clamped the bushing in the flaring tool and drilled it
> out with my air drill. Worked like a charm.

Is that Flairing tool a must have later, and is the $79 one from
Cleveland the one, one should get?
I like the wood blocks idea!

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Author: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@...> Time: Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:00 am PST Link

On the topic of flaring tools I have the following
thoughts: I built my own home and put in many brass
lines - every one seemed to leak kerosene or gas. The
type of flaring tool used, just drove a cone straight
down onto the brass pipe. After buying about 5
flaring tools I went all out and got one for about
$200. It has an offset cone - so rather than coming
straight down and galling the metal - it would kind of
work it from side to side and make a really nice seat.
I'd highly recommend one like that. I read about a
guy once who jumped out of his RV at about 300 feet
due to a cabin fire (his last RV ride). I'm planning
to make certain my lines are done just right.
cliff dow jr
cdowjr@Y...

--- Dan Masys <dmasys@h...> wrote:
> Bobby Hester wrote:
>
> > Is that Flairing tool a must have later, and is
> the $79 one from
> > Cleveland the one, one should get?
> > I like the wood blocks idea!
>
> I got the Parker flaring tool from Avery. Price
> sounds about the same
> as the Cleaveland price, so it's probably the right
> one. You'll need a
> 37 degree (ie., aviation rather than Home Depot)
> flaring tool for the
> tank vents and fuel pickup. I also used it on the
> Gretz pitot/static
> tube lines and it looks like there will be a number
> of uses coming up.
>
> So I think the flaring tool is in the category of a
> must-have unless you
> have a local EAA chapter with tools for loan.
>
> -Dan Masys
> -7A wings

> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]

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