Author: <Dustin.LaMascus@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:38 pm PDT Link
Greetings all,
I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm finallyready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools and compressoris below. I am going to try and have everything in place before the first box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed bumps in the building process. I have compiled the lists below based on input on this list, thanks for all the great information.
BR,
Dustin, soon to be builder
North Texas
Tools:
-Avery's RV kit
-bench grinder
-band saw
-drill press
-pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
-Dremel tool
Others??
Compressor:
One of these..
I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the lowest SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
Sears:
#18419 (Craftsman)
$449.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
150psi max
10.2 SCFM
240v
1-year warranty
Local tax:~$36
Total: $485
HarborFreight
VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
$429.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
3-year warranty
Shipping $5.95 no tax
Total: $435
Northern Tools
191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
$389.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
130psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
2-year warranty
Local tax:~$31
Total: $420
Lowes
CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
379.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
9.7 SCFM
240v
3-year warranty
Local tax:~$30
Total: $410
Author: "keaneshockley" <shockleys@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:32 pm PDT Link
I too have been researching for over a year now and have just
starting setting up shop this week with the following tools &
suggestions:
Check TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) for these. . .
Compressor:
VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
$387.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
Benchtop Tools:
Clarke 5 speed Drill press $52
Clarke Bench Grinder w/light $31
HarborFreight. . .Better Deals at a local store VS. On-Line!
12" Variable Speed 3-wheel BandSaw $99
4"x36" belt w/ 6"disc sander (tilts 90 Vs. 45 degrees) $89
Regulator w/ filter $19
Hose Reel w/ 25' hose $29
much, much, more. . .
My wife is just shaking her head, however, she knew it was coming!
All this for my future RV7A!
This will be a 3 generation project. . .can't wait!
Hope This Helps. . .
Keane Shockley
(CVG-Northern KY area)
Author: "Son Hoang" <shoang@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:23 pm PDT Link
I've looked at the 12" bandsaw at Harbor Freight and wastold by the local store manager that is is not for cutting metal (something about not enough torque)
anybody has experience with it ?
So far I have used a Jigsaw with metal cutting blade. works fine but I am sure a bandsaw is better.
Son Hoang RV6A - cowl installation
----- Original Message -----
From: keaneshockley
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Re: Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
I too have been researching for over a year now and have just
starting setting up shop this week with the following tools &
suggestions:
Check TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) for these. . .
Compressor:
VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
$387.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
Benchtop Tools:
Clarke 5 speed Drill press $52
Clarke Bench Grinder w/light $31
HarborFreight. . .Better Deals at a local store VS. On-Line!
12" Variable Speed 3-wheel BandSaw $99
4"x36" belt w/ 6"disc sander (tilts 90 Vs. 45 degrees) $89
Regulator w/ filter $19
Hose Reel w/ 25' hose $29
much, much, more. . .
My wife is just shaking her head, however, she knew it was coming!
All this for my future RV7A!
This will be a 3 generation project. . .can't wait!
Hope This Helps. . .
Keane Shockley
(CVG-Northern KY area)
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Author: "Bill Heard" <iamheard@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:25 pm PDT Link
Dustin,
I bought a 6 HP, 60 Gallon, 240v Coleman compressor from Tractor Supply that
already had three air outlets, pressure gauge and regulator, and the power
cord installed. I simply took it home, plugged it in and started using it.
It may have been a special at the time but I paid only $360. I was going to
get the Porter Cable compressor from Lowe's until I found the Coleman. The
Porter Cable as well as some of the other compressors you mentioned do not
come with the power cord, regulator or air outlets. You could easily spend
another $60 to $100 to get the other compressors ready to use.
Avery, Brown Tool, Cleveland and Aircraft Tool Supply are all great places
for tools. With some research you can get some great deals on most of your
tools. Some of them advertise in Trade-A-Plane with some great specials. I
bought one of my pneumatic squeezers from Avery at a good price and then
bought another pneumatic squeezer from ATS when I saw it advertised in
Trade-A-Plane for $200 less than Avery including the C frame of your choice.
I assembled my tool set by purchasing from all of the places I mentioned
and also bought stuff from Lowe's, Home Depot, Sears, Grizzly Industrial and
Harbor Freight.
I live in Allen, TX if you are interested in stopping by to see my
garage/workshop. Let me know.
Good luck on your tool acquisition.
Sincerely,
Bill Heard
RV7A emp.
>From: <Dustin.LaMascus@n...>
>Reply-To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
>To: <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:29:51 -0500
>Greetings all,
>
>I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm finally
>ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools and compressor
>is below. I am going to try and have everything in place before the first
>box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed bumps in the building
>process. I have compiled the lists below based on input on this list,
>thanks for all the great information.
>
>BR,
>Dustin, soon to be builder
>North Texas
>Tools:
>-Avery's RV kit
>-bench grinder
>-band saw
>-drill press
>-pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
>-Dremel tool
>
>Others??
>Compressor:
>
>One of these..
>
>I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the lowest
>SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
>Sears:
>#18419 (Craftsman)
>$449.99
>60gal/7hp/1-stage
>150psi max
>10.2 SCFM
>240v
>1-year warranty
>Local tax:~$36
>Total: $485
>HarborFreight
>VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
>$429.99
>60gal/7hp/1-stage
>135psi max
>10.3 SCFM
>240v
>3-year warranty
>Shipping $5.95 no tax
>Total: $435
>Northern Tools
>191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
>$389.99
>60gal/7hp/1-stage
>130psi max
>10.3 SCFM
>240v
>2-year warranty
>Local tax:~$31
>Total: $420
>Lowes
>CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
>379.99
>60gal/7hp/1-stage
>135psi max
>9.7 SCFM
>240v
>3-year warranty
>Local tax:~$30
>Total: $410
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Author: Paul Besing <pbesing@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:30 pm PDT Link
Your list could grow much more than that. There are
probably a dozen or so tools that you might aquire
after what you have there. As far as the compressor
goes, get a 2 stage. They are more efficient. I have
the 8 HP Campbell Hausfeld 60 gallon 2 stage
compressor. 10.5 CFM. You need the 10.5 if you are
going to be doing work with a die grinder. (You do
have a die grinder on your list, don't you?) Well,
Ok.. Here are some tools to think about while I"m
there.
90 degree small die grinder
Scotchbrite wheel for die grinder and bench grinder
90 degree drill attachment
pneumatic pop rivet gun ($50 harbor freight)
stap duplicators
edge marking tool
electrical crimpers (the good ratching ones)
coax crimpers
automatic wire strippers (again, get good ones, you'll
thank yourself)
C Frame Tool
Cleco side grip clamps
set of 3 unibits
Reamers (#3,4,6)
Rivet cutter
Kitlog Pro for your builder's log (plug)
uhh...I'm sure there is more, but this is some of the
things I could think of off the top of my head which I
found incredibly useful throughout the project. You
may already have some of these in your kit, but just
want to make sure.
Paul Besing
--- Dustin.LaMascus@n... wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been lurching on this list now for almost a
> year now and I'm finally ready to start my RV
> project. My initial decision for tools and
> compressor is below. I am going to try and have
> everything in place before the first box arrives
> from Vans so there are fewer speed bumps in the
> building process. I have compiled the lists below
> based on input on this list, thanks for all the
> great information.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, soon to be builder
> North Texas
> Tools:
> -Avery's RV kit
> -bench grinder
> -band saw
> -drill press
> -pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
> -Dremel tool
>
> Others??
> Compressor:
>
> One of these..
>
> I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even
> though it has the lowest SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
> Sears:
> #18419 (Craftsman)
> $449.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 150psi max
> 10.2 SCFM
> 240v
> 1-year warranty
> Local tax:~$36
> Total: $485
> HarborFreight
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $429.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Shipping $5.95 no tax
> Total: $435
> Northern Tools
> 191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
> $389.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 130psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 2-year warranty
> Local tax:~$31
> Total: $420
> Lowes
> CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
> 379.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 9.7 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Local tax:~$30
> Total: $410
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Author: "tamerlane221" <T_dragger44@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:45 pm PDT Link
Dustin,
I don't know if there was a question in there or not... but I'll
kick in two cents worth on the topic.
You'll be very happy with the Avery tools, performance and value in
the long run can't be beat.
I don't believe you'll need quite as much compressor as you are about
to buy. I've finished the airframe with a 20 gallon, four horse unit
with no problem at all. And, I know lots of other builders have done
the same. At the very least, you may want to keep it to a 110 volt
machine; you may want to move it out to a hangar some day where 220
isn't available. There will be tires to air up !!
A bench grinder is essential, as is a die grinder with thin kerf grit
wheels. If I could only have one, I'd take a drill press over a band
saw. You can do a lot pretty fast cut work in .032 and .063 materials
with the die grinder. Every "line" you cut in sheet materials is
going to be smoothed, filed, and de-burred whether you cut with a
wheel or a saw tooth blade.
Good luck with your project,
Monte
--- In RV7and7A@y..., <Dustin.LaMascus@n...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm
finally ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools
and compressor is below. I am going to try and have everything in
place before the first box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed
bumps in the building process. I have compiled the lists below based
on input on this list, thanks for all the great information.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, soon to be builder
> North Texas
> Tools:
> -Avery's RV kit
> -bench grinder
> -band saw
> -drill press
> -pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
> -Dremel tool
>
> Others??
> Compressor:
>
> One of these..
>
> I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the
lowest SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
> Sears:
> #18419 (Craftsman)
> $449.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 150psi max
> 10.2 SCFM
> 240v
> 1-year warranty
> Local tax:~$36
> Total: $485
> HarborFreight
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $429.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Shipping $5.95 no tax
> Total: $435
> Northern Tools
> 191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
> $389.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 130psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 2-year warranty
> Local tax:~$31
> Total: $420
> Lowes
> CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
> 379.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 9.7 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Local tax:~$30
> Total: $410
Author: Robert McCallum <robert.mccallum2@...> Time: Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:46 pm PDT Link
Son Hoang wrote:
>
> I've looked at the 12" bandsaw at Harbor Freight and wastold by the local store manager that is is
> not for cutting metal (something about not enough torque)
>
> anybody has experience with it ?
Change the pulleys on those cheap bandsaws and/or add a gearbox so as to slow the blade speed and
increase the torque. If you then use good metal cutting blades these saws will perform
satisfactorily on metal. Not heavy duty use mind you, but OK for thin material and light aluminium.
--
Bob McC
Author: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:50 am PDT Link
That Harbor Freight 12" variable-speed band saw is excellent. Not only does
it go through metal like butter (sorry about the cliche, it's true), it does
it with the STOCK blade. That's what other builders told me, and I
absolutely wouldn't believe it until I tried it. I thought I was going to
have to get a metal-cutting blade. Nope. That wood-cutting blade that
comes with the saw is great for aluminum. I just run it around 3/4 speed
(pretty arbitrary).
Feel free to come by and try it if you want.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Son Hoang" <shoang@s...>
To: <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [RV7Yahoo] Re: Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
> I've looked at the 12" bandsaw at Harbor Freight and wastold by the local
store manager that is is not for cutting metal (something about not enough
torque)
>
> anybody has experience with it ?
>
> So far I have used a Jigsaw with metal cutting blade. works fine but I am
sure a bandsaw is better.
>
> Son Hoang RV6A - cowl installation
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: keaneshockley
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:07 PM
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Re: Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
> I too have been researching for over a year now and have just
> starting setting up shop this week with the following tools &
> suggestions:
>
> Check TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) for these. . .
> Compressor:
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $387.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
>
> Benchtop Tools:
> Clarke 5 speed Drill press $52
> Clarke Bench Grinder w/light $31
>
> HarborFreight. . .Better Deals at a local store VS. On-Line!
> 12" Variable Speed 3-wheel BandSaw $99
> 4"x36" belt w/ 6"disc sander (tilts 90 Vs. 45 degrees) $89
> Regulator w/ filter $19
> Hose Reel w/ 25' hose $29
> much, much, more. . .
>
> My wife is just shaking her head, however, she knew it was coming!
> All this for my future RV7A!
> This will be a 3 generation project. . .can't wait!
>
> Hope This Helps. . .
> Keane Shockley
> (CVG-Northern KY area)
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Author: "Walt A." <walt99@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 6:03 am PDT Link
Br,
I live N of Dallas and got an Ingersoll-Rand compressor from the distributor
here for just a little more than the Sears, and I dare say it's twice the
quality. Don't recommend the PC, made of aluminum and I've seen some
examples of split/broken cases.
Walt
Email if you want more details.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dustin.LaMascus@n...>
To: <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm
finally ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools and
compressor is below. I am going to try and have everything in place before
the first box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed bumps in the
building process. I have compiled the lists below based on input on this
list, thanks for all the great information.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, soon to be builder
> North Texas
> Tools:
> -Avery's RV kit
> -bench grinder
> -band saw
> -drill press
> -pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
> -Dremel tool
>
> Others??
> Compressor:
>
> One of these..
>
> I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the lowest
SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
> Sears:
> #18419 (Craftsman)
> $449.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 150psi max
> 10.2 SCFM
> 240v
> 1-year warranty
> Local tax:~$36
> Total: $485
> HarborFreight
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $429.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Shipping $5.95 no tax
> Total: $435
> Northern Tools
> 191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
> $389.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 130psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 2-year warranty
> Local tax:~$31
> Total: $420
> Lowes
> CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
> 379.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 9.7 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Local tax:~$30
> Total: $410
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Author: Tom Coombs <tcoombs@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 7:51 am PDT Link
My shop setup is underway and my compressor was the first big thing to
arrive (Yesterday!)
I got the;
HarborFreight
VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
$429.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
3-year warranty
Shipping $5.95 no tax
Total: $435
Beware, Harbor freight do not carry these and it was back ordered from HF
for about 5 weeks and then came from Campbell Hausfeld directly. Also, the
trucking company just dropped it at the end of my drive and it was pretty
heavy at 254lb ship weight.
Going on the SportAir workshop next month, then its time for the Avery Kit
and the Emp Kit.
TC.
----Original Message-----
From: Dustin.LaMascus@n... [mailto:Dustin.LaMascus@n...]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:30 PM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
Greetings all,
I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm finally
ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools and compressor
is below. I am going to try and have everything in place before the first
box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed bumps in the building
process. I have compiled the lists below based on input on this list, thanks
for all the great information.
BR,
Dustin, soon to be builder
North Texas
Tools:
-Avery's RV kit
-bench grinder
-band saw
-drill press
-pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
-Dremel tool
Others??
Compressor:
One of these..
I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the lowest
SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
Sears:
#18419 (Craftsman)
$449.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
150psi max
10.2 SCFM
240v
1-year warranty
Local tax:~$36
Total: $485
HarborFreight
VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
$429.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
3-year warranty
Shipping $5.95 no tax
Total: $435
Northern Tools
191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
$389.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
130psi max
10.3 SCFM
240v
2-year warranty
Local tax:~$31
Total: $420
Lowes
CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
379.99
60gal/7hp/1-stage
135psi max
9.7 SCFM
240v
3-year warranty
Local tax:~$30
Total: $410
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Author: <Dustin.LaMascus@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 9:00 am PDT Link
Thanks for all the great replies! I've got one heck of a shopping list to tackle now. I really like the idea of buying a smaller compressor with 110v capabilities and then moving it to the hangar. However when I did a little e-shopping I found that the high quality smaller units (cast iron, 5hp, 30gal, vertical, 110v) cost just a little less than the ones I first posted (7hp/60gal/240v). This has made me decide on the larger unit for the airplanefactory (garage) and in the future just purchase another less expensive unit for the hanger, maybe even an oil-less *gasp*. Again, thanks for all theinput.
BR,
Dustin, RV-7 builder to be.
North Texas
Author: Tom Moore <n321tm@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 12:49 pm PDT Link
I have one of the 12" bandsaws from Harbor Freight and it works fine on
aluminum. I bought some additional blades from Grizzly Industrial.
Grizzly offers a good selection of 62" blades that fits this 12" saw.
They have some 14T and 24T blades that makes cutting the thinner
aluminum a little smoother. It's also nice to have a spare blade in
case you break one.
Tom Moore
Frisco, TX
Author: Paul Besing <pbesing@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 1:19 pm PDT Link
Also, most of the 110 varieties are oil free
compressors. They are VERY noisy, and run very hot.
Paul Besing
--- Dustin.LaMascus@n... wrote:
> Thanks for all the great replies! I've got one heck
> of a shopping list to tackle now. I really like the
> idea of buying a smaller compressor with 110v
> capabilities and then moving it to the hangar.
> However when I did a little e-shopping I found that
> the high quality smaller units (cast iron, 5hp,
> 30gal, vertical, 110v) cost just a little less than
> the ones I first posted (7hp/60gal/240v). This has
> made me decide on the larger unit for the airplane
> factory (garage) and in the future just purchase
> another less expensive unit for the hanger, maybe
> even an oil-less *gasp*. Again, thanks for all the
> input.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, RV-7 builder to be.
> North Texas
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Author: "onetall4x4" <1tall4x4@...> Time: Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:08 pm PDT Link
--- In RV7and7A@y..., <Dustin.LaMascus@n...> wrote:
> I'll throw in my 2 cents... I'm working on the elevators at this
time. I bought a 26 gal 5hp 110v oil compressor at Home Depot and
it's worked just fine (don't see the need for 60-70gal tanks unless
you're planning on priming with it (rattle cans here)). Not to
mention it was about $200 cheaper than what you have listed here. I
haven't had a need for a band saw yet. I've used the drill press on
a few occasions but I could of did without except for cutting the
lightening holes in the VS spar reinforcement which is optional. I
love the pneumatic squeezer, don't know how people build without
them, I just have the standard 3 inch yoke. About the only thing I
find is necessary are the grinder and the air compressor.... Hope
this helps...
Eric Saline
Las Vegas
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and
I'm finally ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for
tools and compressor is below. I am going to try and have everything
in place before the first box arrives from Vans so there are fewer
speed bumps in the building process. I have compiled the lists below
based on input on this list, thanks for all the great information.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, soon to be builder
> North Texas
> Tools:
> -Avery's RV kit
> -bench grinder
> -band saw
> -drill press
> -pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
> -Dremel tool
>
> Others??
> Compressor:
>
> One of these..
>
> I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the
lowest SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
> Sears:
> #18419 (Craftsman)
> $449.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 150psi max
> 10.2 SCFM
> 240v
> 1-year warranty
> Local tax:~$36
> Total: $485
> HarborFreight
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $429.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Shipping $5.95 no tax
> Total: $435
> Northern Tools
> 191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
> $389.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 130psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 2-year warranty
> Local tax:~$31
> Total: $420
> Lowes
> CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
> 379.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 9.7 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Local tax:~$30
> Total: $410
Author: "Michael Brittain Crowell" <britt@...> Time: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:31 am PDT Link
I'm moving shops and loosing access to a 20Gal oilless (not really a
badthing). I was looking at the I/R 60Gal for around $470, but I
found this 110v unit on the Harbor Freight site. 110v, 30 gal ,
wheels, oiled, $199
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47065
this will keep me from having to run 240v out to the shop.
Britt
N877BC
--- In RV7and7A@y..., <Dustin.LaMascus@n...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been lurching on this list now for almost a year now and I'm
finally ready to start my RV project. My initial decision for tools
and compressor is below. I am going to try and have everything in
place before the first box arrives from Vans so there are fewer speed
bumps in the building process. I have compiled the lists below based
on input on this list, thanks for all the great information.
>
> BR,
> Dustin, soon to be builder
> North Texas
> Tools:
> -Avery's RV kit
> -bench grinder
> -band saw
> -drill press
> -pneumatic squeezer (yokes:longeron & "no hole")
> -Dremel tool
>
> Others??
> Compressor:
>
> One of these..
>
> I have almost decided on the Porter Cable even though it has the
lowest SCFMs@90PSI of the bunch.
>
> Sears:
> #18419 (Craftsman)
> $449.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 150psi max
> 10.2 SCFM
> 240v
> 1-year warranty
> Local tax:~$36
> Total: $485
> HarborFreight
> VT6275 (Campbell-Hausfeld)
> $429.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Shipping $5.95 no tax
> Total: $435
> Northern Tools
> 191042 (Coleman Premium Plus)
> $389.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 130psi max
> 10.3 SCFM
> 240v
> 2-year warranty
> Local tax:~$31
> Total: $420
> Lowes
> CPLC7060V (Porter Cable)
> 379.99
> 60gal/7hp/1-stage
> 135psi max
> 9.7 SCFM
> 240v
> 3-year warranty
> Local tax:~$30
> Total: $410
Author: "fpj_28" <fjongert@...> Time: Sat Oct 19, 2002 5:50 pm PDT Link
Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
TIA
Frank
Author: "Randy Crothers" <rnvcrothers@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:35 am PDT Link
In my experience, the bigger and higher capacity the compressor, the happier the owner. Mount somewhere so you can't hear it and you will be even happier. Sorry I can't answer about the CFM requirements. You will also be happier if you have both air and a good battery powered drill motor. The air drills turn much faster than the battery powered version and this is better for making round holes. The chucks on my air drills won't open large enough to accept the shafts of the counter sinks or uni bits but slower speed seems to be better for these anyway. My .02
----- Original Message -----
From: fpj_28
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [RV7Yahoo] Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
TIA
Frank
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Author: "Joseph J. Hobbs" <jjhobbs@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:36 am PDT Link
Frank - My air drill gets HEAVY usage! I could do without it, but it would be a bummer! The airdrill maintains faster speeds and has the ability to power through thick stuff.
I'm about ready to start on the upper forward fuse assembly, so I hate to think of all the holes I've drilled so far! Not only on the skins but the fabricated pieces which are heavier stock up to .25" thick. The air drill is a must in my view. I got the Campbell-Hausfeld basic model at Home Depot for a cheap price.
I have had great luck with my 115V Campbell-Hausfeld 5hp/26 gallon compressor. I got it on sale a Sears. I don't use it for painting. When I run my die grinder, the compressor is running quite a bit to keep up but it has always been "no problem" for all of my needs so far.
Joseph J. Hobbs
RV7 Fuselage in Phoenix, AZ
FADEC IOF360, 3 blade AT, EFIS dreaming
jjhobbs@u...
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----- Original Message -----
From: fpj_28
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [RV7Yahoo] Initial Tools & Air Compressor Choice
Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
TIA
Frank
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Author: Rick Crosby <rcrosby1961@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:37 am PDT Link
Frank,
It's still early in the game for me, but I have two air drills sitting in the tool box and I can't get enough of my cordless drill. I think I'll buy another (lower power/lower weight) cordless before I use the air drills.
Rick
fpj_28 <fjongert@s...> wrote:Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
TIA
Frank
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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:53 pm PDT Link
Michael Brittain Crowell wrote:
> I'm moving shops and loosing access to a 20Gal oilless (not really a
> badthing). I was looking at the I/R 60Gal for around $470, but I
> found this 110v unit on the Harbor Freight site. 110v, 30 gal ,
> wheels, oiled, $199
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47065
>
> this will keep me from having to run 240v out to the shop.
> Britt
> N877BC
4.4 CFM @ 90 PSI seems pretty low
I use a Porter-Cabel 6 HP, 25 Gal. 6.8 SCFM @ 90 PSI. Model# CPL6025 you
can see it here:
http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/Tips.html
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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:53 pm PDT Link
fpj_28 wrote:
> Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
>
> related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
> needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
> they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
> less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
> only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
> drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
>
> TIA
> Frank
I am using this one from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43430
It seems to be doing ok for priming, Required air pressure: 15-50 PSI,
Air consumption: 9.5-14.8 CFM
My compressor produces 8.6 SCFM @ 40 PSI
Seems like I don't waste as much paint with this one compared to the old
silver can gun.
I use a small die grinder to do things like cutting the landing light
holes out and it works fine, the compressor runs more when I use it.
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Author: Bobby Hester <bhester@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:53 pm PDT Link
fpj_28 wrote:
> Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple of
>
> related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
> needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
> they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that require
> less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing priming
> only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an air
> drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
>
> TIA
> Frank
Woops for got about the drill question. I bought a reversible air drill
at Harbor Freight for about $25 I use my cordless DeWalt (with two
batteries, one in the charger) must of the time, but use the air drill
some also.
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Author: Paul Besing <pbesing@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:54 pm PDT Link
Again, the amount of benefit you get for spending a
little more money is HUGE! An HVLP does use alot of
air. I think 12 CFM is kind of high. You must be
looking at less expensive guns. Typically, the more
expensive the air tool, the less CFM it uses. See my
review on my Sharpe HVLP on my website,
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing and click on
"Paint". As far as drills are concerned, an air drill
is definately required. The faster spinning bits
allow for more round holes. Do not use an electric
drill for your daily drilling. You will be happier
with the results from a good air drill.
CFM? Around 10 should be sufficient. If you run a
die grinder or any other high CFM type tool, you will
wish you spent the extra $100 on a higher CFM
compressor that will keep up with it.
Paul Besing
--- fpj_28 <fjongert@s...> wrote:
> Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I
> have a couple of
> related questions. The first is on how much
> compressor is really
> needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a
> catalogue and
> they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there
> guns that require
> less than this or can you make do with less if you
> are doing priming
> only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder?
> Lastly, is an air
> drill and absolute requirement or will an electric
> drill do the job?
>
> TIA
> Frank
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Author: "Bruce" <wingtime@...> Time: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:55 pm PDT Link
--- In RV7and7A@y..., "fpj_28" <fjongert@s...> wrote:
> Sorry to jump in on this discussion a bit late but I have a couple
of
> related questions. The first is on how much compressor is really
> needed. I was looking at some HVLP paint guns in a catalogue and
> they all required between 12 and 14 CFM. Are there guns that
require
> less than this or can you make do with less if you are doing
priming
> only? What's the minimum CFM for the die grinder? Lastly, is an
air
> drill and absolute requirement or will an electric drill do the job?
>
> TIA
> Frank
You have to look at the PSI and CFM. most compressors will list a
CFM at say 40 psi and a cfm at 90 psi. HVLP is a low pressure deal
so 12 14 CFM should be no big deal.
I would say the air drill is a requirement. You really want your
RPMS to be AT LEAST 2,200 RPM. While the cordless is handy it's
heavy, bulky and not very fast. Also there are holes I've had to
drill that only the airdrill would be able to get in there. I
actually have Two air drills and I'm thinking of buying a third.
Reason ? I don't have to stop and change bits all the time. I keep
a #30 in one and a #40 in the other. I was changing bits one time
and had gottent the bit in crooked once. when I went to drill the
hole.... well you can guess.