Author: "Bev Sinkbeil" <bevandjim@...> Time: Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:45 am PDT Link
I also am ex military & feel a throttle belongs in my left hand. Don't know
if I'm going to worry about having a dual setup.My neighboor Skip Heard
[builder of 76 rv-6s for the Nigerian AF] builds an elegant dual quadrant
but for lycs..............Jim [Flying by Osh.]
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Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Digest Number 862
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> There are 5 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. RE: Back rivetting plate
> From: "Hedrington, Bret" <bhedrington@p...>
> 2. Dual Throttles
> From: "michaeljephcott" <mike.jephcott@s...>
> 3. Re: Dual Throttles
> From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@r...>
> 4. Re: Dual Throttles
> From: Jack Loflin <loflinj@y...>
> 5. RE: Re: plans build RV7
> From: "Hugh Tyler (SunGard-Chico)" <hugh@b...
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:17:52 -0500
> From: "Hedrington, Bret" <bhedrington@p...>
> Subject: RE: Back rivetting plate
>
> The piece I use the most (A Bit Lighter than my "BIG" Plate) is 8" wide by
48" Long 1/2" Thick Blanchard Ground and polished. Works Great...
>
> Let just say that this one is about 1/16th the size/weight of the "Big"
one...
>
> In this cage bigger is better but don't overdue it...
>
> Bret
> N997RV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Talbot [mailto:jtalbot@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:14 PM
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> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Back rivetting plate
> I have got myself a strip of steel 4 inches wide to use as a back
> rivetting plate.
> What length did others use? What is the suggested optimum length for
> a back rivetting plate?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:20:02 -0000
> From: "michaeljephcott" <mike.jephcott@s...>
> Subject: Dual Throttles
>
> As an RV7A builder never having flown a stick/right hand throttle
> before today (Katana), I am concerned about this arrangement for my
> airplane. I feel the need to have my right hand on the stick but
> feel uncomfortable about not "guarding" the throttle - too many
> years of fighter flying! Today I found myself flying the stick with
> my right until the traffic pattern when I switched to left on the
> stick , right on the throttle - surely I'm not the only one who
> finds this unacceptable, perhaps even unnatural?
>
> Anyway, I need a dual throttle system so that the plane can be flown
> from either seat in whatever permutation/combinatiopn feels good.
> Has anyone out there found a compatible dual throttle system for the
> RV7A Subaru combination? Are there electric throttles our there in
> GA so that control cables/pulleys etc aren't needed?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:45:14 -0700
> From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@r...>
> Subject: Re: Dual Throttles
>
> I'm still convinced that configuring your plane for PIC in the right seat
is
> the easiest way to accomplish this...throttle-in-left, easy access for
both
> seats, radios with your left hand, etc.
>
> Of course that's not what I did, but hey... 8^)
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (left-handed throttle quadrant)
> http://www.rvproject.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michaeljephcott" <mike.jephcott@s...>
> To: <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:20 PM
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Dual Throttles
> > As an RV7A builder never having flown a stick/right hand throttle
> > before today (Katana), I am concerned about this arrangement for my
> > airplane. I feel the need to have my right hand on the stick but
> > feel uncomfortable about not "guarding" the throttle - too many
> > years of fighter flying! Today I found myself flying the stick with
> > my right until the traffic pattern when I switched to left on the
> > stick , right on the throttle - surely I'm not the only one who
> > finds this unacceptable, perhaps even unnatural?
> >
> > Anyway, I need a dual throttle system so that the plane can be flown
> > from either seat in whatever permutation/combinatiopn feels good.
> > Has anyone out there found a compatible dual throttle system for the
> > RV7A Subaru combination? Are there electric throttles our there in
> > GA so that control cables/pulleys etc aren't needed?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:12:27 +0800
> From: Jack Loflin <loflinj@y...>
> Subject: Re: Dual Throttles
>
> I would go with the standard setup. Throttle/mixture in center, stick to
> either side. Trust me, after about 10 hours (forcing yourself to use the
> appropriate hand) you will get used to it. I'm a CFI and fly from the
right
> seat most of the time, unless I'm not with a student, then I switch to the
> left. You'll get used to using a different hand after a while.
>
> -Jack
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:57:49 -0700
> From: "Hugh Tyler (SunGard-Chico)" <hugh@b...>
> Subject: RE: Re: plans build RV7
>
> In doing my research for the cost of this project, there is one factor
that
> I did not consider nor see in any article, website or in Vans cost
> calculator. I was a do-it-yourselfer on projects around the house. Now I
pay
> someone to do the work. I have been building approx a year and a half and
I
> figure I have shelled out roughly $4500 in labor costs for work done to
the
> house. In my mind this is $4500 dollars that have been added to the
bottom
> line of the project. Sure I could still do the do-it-yourself work but
there
> is only so much time in a day and energy in my body. This is the choice I
> have made. Just something to consider.
>
> Hugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gomez [mailto:mlg28@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:32 AM
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Re: plans build RV7
> I doubt you'd save much money...and it'll definitely cost you roughly
> a 2x increment in time.
>
> If you did save any money, I bet it would be just a couple of
> thousand dollars (roughly), which is a very small fraction of the
> cost of the completed airplane. If you were VERY frugal, you could
> build an RV-7 as follows, in rough numbers:
>
> a) Buy the kit, $16K
> b) Buy a mid-time O-320, $10K
> c) Buy a fixed-pitch wooden prop, $1K
> d) Buy VFR instruments, $2K
> e) Buy no radios whatsover
> f) Firewall-forward stuff, $2K
>
> Total: $29K. Now, I bet very few if any RV-7s are being built this
> frugally...I bet the mean is over $60K...but in any case, saving a
> little on the kit won't help much. It'll be at most a 10% savings,
> and probably even less.
>
> I was scratch-building a Midget Mustang 1 from plans until my 2nd
> child was born. Then I realized I had little use for a single-seater
> and stopped.
>
> Having to form every rib and bulkhead takes a lot of time. Making
> the forming blocks out of wood or MDF takes a lot of time (it's an
> all-metal airplane, but you spend an awful lot of time doing
> carpentry!) Buying the material takes a lot of time.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> --- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "Bud Templin" <budtem@v...> wrote:
> > Hi- just joined. I have the study plans RV7, but not much money at
> the moment. Am considering scratch building. I am pretty handy,
> generally. Am I deluded? Would I be better off just saving up to get
> the kits? or does it make sense to get started now scratch building
> the empennage? Would appreciate any comments.
> >
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