Author: "tonypartain" <tpartain@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 8:52 am PDT Link
Hello one and all. I am new to the list and just ordered a 7QB last
week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at home.
The experience at Vans was a very pleasant one and they were very
helpful in making a few key decisions.
After setting up my shop (evicting my wife's car and mine from the
garage) acquiring a large selection of tools and lightening my bank
account considerably I am ready to start on the empennage.
My first question (of many) is regarding deburring. After using the
deburring tool do you still need to scotchbrite or is the deburring
tool adequate?
Tony Partain
Bend Oregon
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Author: "Martin Gomez" <mlg28@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 9:37 am PDT Link
I think you still need ScotchBrite PADS and a ScotchBrite WHEEL. There are deburring tools
for holes, which are not much use for anything else (you can drag them along the edge of
a sheet or a rib, but it's a lot of work). The ScotchBrite wheel is a great way to "break" the
edges of ribs, skins, etc. The ScotchBrite pads are useful to work off a scratch, or roughen
up a surface prior to priming, etc.
Regards,
Martin
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "tonypartain" <tpartain@b...> wrote:
> Hello one and all. I am new to the list and just ordered a 7QB last
> week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at home.
> The experience at Vans was a very pleasant one and they were very
> helpful in making a few key decisions.
>
> After setting up my shop (evicting my wife's car and mine from the
> garage) acquiring a large selection of tools and lightening my bank
> account considerably I am ready to start on the empennage.
>
> My first question (of many) is regarding deburring. After using the
> deburring tool do you still need to scotchbrite or is the deburring
> tool adequate?
>
> Tony Partain
> Bend Oregon
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Author: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 9:50 am PDT Link
I think, if I recall correctly, that in the Van's instructions is a
notation that one of the mistakes the new builder makes most often is
over-deburring. Where holes are concerned, use your little swivel
tool...a couple of rotations on one side of the hole, a couple on
the other and...voila! You're all done.
The Scotchbrite wheel is, as someone noted, excellent for edges and
such. I also tend to use it, I think, in areas where others might use
a belt sander. It's great for shaping things, like the fuel tank
attach brackets after you hacksaw some metal (which you'll do if you
don't use a band saw....hey, all of these things are tradeoffs for
time and $$$).
I generally only use the scotchbrite pads for roughing up skins.
Sometimes I'll use emery cloth on an edge of skin followed by some
100 grit sandpaper because a scotchbrite wheel is probably too much
for thin skin.
The best measurement is your finger and fingernail. Run it along an
edge and if you catch, give it a little shot of your favorite
abrasive tool.
But don't get all worried about these things. AFter you learn what
all the tools are for and all the techniques, you will have learned
that we make too big of a deal of a lot of these things.
YMMV
Bob
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home.
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Author: customtrans@... Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 1:17 pm PDT Link
deburing, hummm... a fine file stroked over the offending edge piece a
couple times and then 400 aluminum oxide paper on a sanding block
afterwards, takes a couple seconds usually. Holes, only if they have an
edge and usually only after drilling a brand new hole. If it needs it, an
oversizes drill bit does real nice.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:47 AM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Re: New to the list
I think, if I recall correctly, that in the Van's instructions is a
notation that one of the mistakes the new builder makes most often is
over-deburring. Where holes are concerned, use your little swivel
tool...a couple of rotations on one side of the hole, a couple on
the other and...voila! You're all done.
The Scotchbrite wheel is, as someone noted, excellent for edges and
such. I also tend to use it, I think, in areas where others might use
a belt sander. It's great for shaping things, like the fuel tank
attach brackets after you hacksaw some metal (which you'll do if you
don't use a band saw....hey, all of these things are tradeoffs for
time and $$$).
I generally only use the scotchbrite pads for roughing up skins.
Sometimes I'll use emery cloth on an edge of skin followed by some
100 grit sandpaper because a scotchbrite wheel is probably too much
for thin skin.
The best measurement is your finger and fingernail. Run it along an
edge and if you catch, give it a little shot of your favorite
abrasive tool.
But don't get all worried about these things. AFter you learn what
all the tools are for and all the techniques, you will have learned
that we make too big of a deal of a lot of these things.
YMMV
Bob
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last
> week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at
home.
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Author: "Steve Reamer" <steve@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 2:22 pm PDT Link
A deburring tool is superior to a
drill...quicker...safer...smoother...angel of cutting edge just
right...little chance of chatter...drill cutting edges are designed to bite
into the metal and go deep...close examination reveals a tendency to leave
chatter marks...even if you twist it by hand.
After a few thousand holes you will appreciate the little swivel debur
tool...
Sanding sponge and/or file works fine for edges...less chance to slice your
hand if you use a fine single cut file.
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From: customtrans@qwest.net [mailto:customtrans@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:14 PM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RV7Yahoo] Re: New to the list
deburing, hummm... a fine file stroked over the offending edge piece a
couple times and then 400 aluminum oxide paper on a sanding block
afterwards, takes a couple seconds usually. Holes, only if they have an
edge and usually only after drilling a brand new hole. If it needs it, an
oversizes drill bit does real nice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Collins [mailto:bcollins@mpr.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:47 AM
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Re: New to the list
I think, if I recall correctly, that in the Van's instructions is a
notation that one of the mistakes the new builder makes most often is
over-deburring. Where holes are concerned, use your little swivel
tool...a couple of rotations on one side of the hole, a couple on
the other and...voila! You're all done.
The Scotchbrite wheel is, as someone noted, excellent for edges and
such. I also tend to use it, I think, in areas where others might use
a belt sander. It's great for shaping things, like the fuel tank
attach brackets after you hacksaw some metal (which you'll do if you
don't use a band saw....hey, all of these things are tradeoffs for
time and $$$).
I generally only use the scotchbrite pads for roughing up skins.
Sometimes I'll use emery cloth on an edge of skin followed by some
100 grit sandpaper because a scotchbrite wheel is probably too much
for thin skin.
The best measurement is your finger and fingernail. Run it along an
edge and if you catch, give it a little shot of your favorite
abrasive tool.
But don't get all worried about these things. AFter you learn what
all the tools are for and all the techniques, you will have learned
that we make too big of a deal of a lot of these things.
YMMV
Bob
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> Hello one and all. I am new to the list and just ordered a 7QB
last
> week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at
home.
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Author: "Richard & Roberta Hegy" <rhegy@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 3:09 pm PDT Link
A lite swiping with scotch brite won't hurt or take long. Rule of thumb, is if you can snag on it, it needs cleaning up. It's a lot easier to do a little extra cleaning now than to replace a cracked part later.
Roberta
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] New to the list
Hello one and all. I am new to the list and just ordered a 7QB last
week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at home.
The experience at Vans was a very pleasant one and they were very
helpful in making a few key decisions.
After setting up my shop (evicting my wife's car and mine from the
garage) acquiring a large selection of tools and lightening my bank
account considerably I am ready to start on the empennage.
My first question (of many) is regarding deburring. After using the
deburring tool do you still need to scotchbrite or is the deburring
tool adequate?
Tony Partain
Bend Oregon
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Author: "tonypartain" <tpartain@...> Time: Tue Oct 5, 2004 3:54 pm PDT Link
Thanks to all that replied. I must debur now.
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "tonypartain" <tpartain@b...> wrote:
> Hello one and all. I am new to the list and just ordered a 7QB
last
> week. Expecting delivery in February and have the tail here at
home.
> The experience at Vans was a very pleasant one and they were very
> helpful in making a few key decisions.
>
> After setting up my shop (evicting my wife's car and mine from the
> garage) acquiring a large selection of tools and lightening my bank
> account considerably I am ready to start on the empennage.
>
> My first question (of many) is regarding deburring. After using the
> deburring tool do you still need to scotchbrite or is the deburring
> tool adequate?
>
> Tony Partain
> Bend Oregon
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