Author: "luap71" <luap71@...> Time: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:27 pm PST Link
Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other
great looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he
tries to shine it up, still does not look right.
So come all, join me and say:
DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
All in jest of course.
BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the
next topic can be paint :-)
Author: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@...> Time: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:06 pm PST Link
> DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
I know, I know, the plane flies soooo much better and you're soooo much more
proud of it when it's painted. Whooptedoo.
I'd rather fly & travel. I have a whole mess of flying trips planned
through the end of 2006. Even if I *wanted* to throw all that travel away
on paint, I am not taking the plane down anytime soon. Taking it down for
the condition inspection is about as long as I can stand. The cockpit of my
RV-7 is my office, my home away from home, my view of the world. What am I
gonna do if the plane's in the paint shop for 6+ weeks, sit on the couch and
eat bon-bons?
Yesterday my passenger (an RV-4 pilot who is in a battle with the FAA over
his medical) noted that I'm probably gonna have to replace my carpet pretty
soon. There are "foot dents" on my side. When I told him that it's already
my 2nd carpet, he laughed out loud. It's gonna be worn out by the time I
paint. Oh, well -- this plane was built to FLY, not to look perty.
When I was young I had dreams of moving freely in three dimensions, not
dreams of standing next to a plane with a fancy paint job.
Everything in moderation. Except flying! Get it while the gettin's good.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (690 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
Author: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@...> Time: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:21 pm PST Link
// BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the
next topic can be paint :-)
I get my magazines mixed u but I THINK that Kitplanes just completed a
four-part series on painting, didn't they. I believe Roberta Hegy was
heavily favored. Good article -- real meat and potatoes for current
builders.
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Author: "B Tomm" <fvalarm@...> Time: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:03 pm PST Link
No way. Why do you want to tick him off? Especially if you appreciate his
free website? Maybe he will start charging for access to raise funds for
the paint job. If my plane turns out as good as Dan's, I wouldn't paint her
either. If you don't like it, don't look at it!!!
BTW, thanks Dan, keep up the great site and pay no attention to the "paint
it" crowd. Only someone who is truly comfortable with his metal work will
leave the bird in its natural plumage.
Bevan
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plane
Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other great
looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he tries to shine
it up, still does not look right.
So come all, join me and say:
DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
All in jest of course.
BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the next
topic can be paint :-)
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Author: Dave Nellis <truflite@...> Time: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:36 pm PST Link
Hmmmm, how about a bunch of RVers with sharpies paint
up Dan "Sharpie" Checkoway's 7 for him. Lots of new
colors available. Make it a BBQ fly in. Bring the
kids, they would enjoy painting too. :-) JK of course.
Dave
--- luap71 <luap71@...> wrote:
> Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to
> paint the plane!
>
> I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next
> to all the other
> great looking planes and it just looks out of place,
> even when he
> tries to shine it up, still does not look right.
>
> So come all, join me and say:
>
> DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
>
> All in jest of course.
>
> BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been
> writing, maybe the
> next topic can be paint :-)
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Author: "luap71" <luap71@...> Time: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:47 am PST Link
Just in case you you all missed an important part of my post
> All in jest of course.
I enjoy seeing the pictures of Dan buffing out his plane to make it all shinny as much as anyone. If it wasn't for the fiberglass parts I would actually consider going the shinny silver bullet in the sky look myself, although it would be alot of work to keep it actually shinny, especially if one flew as often as Dan.
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "B Tomm" <fvalarm@r...> wrote:
>
> No way. Why do you want to tick him off? Especially if you appreciate his
> free website? Maybe he will start charging for access to raise funds for
> the paint job. If my plane turns out as good as Dan's, I wouldn't paint her
> either. If you don't like it, don't look at it!!!
>
> BTW, thanks Dan, keep up the great site and pay no attention to the "paint
> it" crowd. Only someone who is truly comfortable with his metal work will
> leave the bird in its natural plumage.
>
> Bevan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of luap71
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:21 PM
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Starting an online petition to get Dan to paint his
> plane
>
> Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
>
> I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other great
> looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he tries to shine
> it up, still does not look right.
>
> So come all, join me and say:
>
> DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
>
> All in jest of course.
>
> BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the next
> topic can be paint :-)
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Author: Mickey Coggins <mc@...> Time: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:03 pm PST Link
> I enjoy seeing the pictures of Dan buffing out his plane to make it
> all shinny as much as anyone. If it wasn't for the fiberglass parts
> I would actually consider going the shinny silver bullet in the sky
> look myself, although it would be alot of work to keep it actually
> shinny, especially if one flew as often as Dan.
If you want to paint your fiberglass stuff and have it
be shiny, there are amazing, but expensive options:
http://alsacorp.com/chrome.htm
This stuff is $1200/gallon!
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
Author: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@...> Time: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:12 pm PST Link
> I enjoy seeing the pictures of Dan buffing out his plane to make it all
shinny as much as anyone. If it wasn't for the fiberglass parts I would
actually consider going the shinny silver bullet in the sky look myself,
although it would be alot of work to keep it actually shinny, especially if
one flew as often as Dan.
I temporarily lost my mind and buffed out my tailcone 2 weeks ago. It
looked awesome that night. 2 weeks later (~20 flight hours) it looks like
crap again. It sat outside a few nights in there. It needs constant
attention to keep the polished look pristine.
It has been over a year since I polished my wings and tail surfaces. I
clean them with wet terry cloths and dry with a cotton t-shirt. Even that
scratches them up.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (693 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
Author: "Dan Landry" <rv7@...> Time: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:11 am PST Link
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "luap71" <luap71@y...> wrote:
>
> Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
Dan sounds like a radical guy.
If he's anything like me, when someone pressures me to do
something, "it ain't gonna happen"
Author: "Matt Johnson" <matt@...> Time: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:14 am PST Link
What articles?
- Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: "luap71" <luap71@...>
To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:21:27 -0000
Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Starting an online petition to get Dan to paint his plane
> Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
>
> I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other
> great looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he
> tries to shine it up, still does not look right.
>
> So come all, join me and say:
>
> DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
>
> All in jest of course.
>
> BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the
> next topic can be paint :-)
> Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> www.vansaircraft.net
> Yahoo! Groups Links
Author: "luap71" <luap71@...> Time: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:23 pm PST Link
Dan's series of articles for the magazine Kitplanes on working with metal.
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Johnson" <matt@n...> wrote:
>
> What articles?
>
> - Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "luap71" <luap71@y...>
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:21:27 -0000
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Starting an online petition to get Dan to paint
his plane
>
> > Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
> >
> > I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other
> > great looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he
> > tries to shine it up, still does not look right.
> >
> > So come all, join me and say:
> >
> > DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
> >
> > All in jest of course.
> >
> > BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the
> > next topic can be paint :-)
> > Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> > www.vansaircraft.net
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
Author: Martin Gomez <mlg28@...> Time: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:24 pm PST Link
Is there a way to polish it, get it nice and shiny, and then coat it to
keep air off of the surface? I was thinking of painting only the
fiberglass parts and leaving most of the aluminum unpainted, but I don't
want to spend the rest of my life polishing.
Thanks,
Martin
Dan Checkoway wrote:
> It needs constant
>attention to keep the polished look pristine.
--
Martin Gomez
MLG28@...
http://www.bashingaluminum.com
Author: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@...> Time: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:44 pm PST Link
I'm with Dan on this one... Why paint it? Looks? Who cares. I'm building the RV7 to flyyyyy... The inside and outside will be the aluminum finish just like it came out of the crate. Maybe a stripe here or there.
Darrell
do not archive
luap71 <luap71@...> wrote:
Dan's series of articles for the magazine Kitplanes on working with metal.
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Johnson" <matt@n...> wrote:
>
> What articles?
>
> - Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "luap71" <luap71@y...>
> To: RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:21:27 -0000
> Subject: [RV7Yahoo] Starting an online petition to get Dan to paint
his plane
>
> > Lets start a petition to convince Dan its time to paint the plane!
> >
> > I visit rvproject.com and see he plain lined up next to all the other
> > great looking planes and it just looks out of place, even when he
> > tries to shine it up, still does not look right.
> >
> > So come all, join me and say:
> >
> > DAN PAINT YOUR DANG PLANE.
> >
> > All in jest of course.
> >
> > BTW Dan, good job on the articles you have been writing, maybe the
> > next topic can be paint :-)
> > Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing
> > www.vansaircraft.net
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Author: "tomcostanza19047" <Tom@...> Time: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:55 pm PST Link
Pardon my ignorance. When you polish the bare aluminum, do you/can
you (intentionally or accidentally) remove the alclad? If you have
scratched through the alclad can you still safely have a polished
finish? Do you put wax on the aluminum?
(thanks for not laughing)
Best,
Tom
--- In RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com, Martin Gomez <mlg28@c...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to polish it, get it nice and shiny, and then coat
it to
> keep air off of the surface? I was thinking of painting only the
> fiberglass parts and leaving most of the aluminum unpainted, but I
don't
> want to spend the rest of my life polishing.
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
> Dan Checkoway wrote:
> > It needs constant
> >attention to keep the polished look pristine.
> --
> Martin Gomez
> MLG28@c...
> http://www.bashingaluminum.com
Author: "pepeborja925mb" <pepeborja925mb@...> Time: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:09 pm PST Link
<SNIP>When you polish the bare aluminum, do you/can you
(intentionally or accidentally) remove the alclad?<SNIP>
ISFASK, polished aluminum has the alclad removed. How else could one
polish a metal unless you get to the metal itself.
Best is to try it on your own scrap aluminum and polish one half to a
mirror surface and the other half stays virgin with its alclad
cover.
Then apply a wax coat to one half of the polished aluminum and one
half of the virgin aluminum. That should yield 4 test samples:
Polished
Polished with Wax
Alclad Only
Alclad with Wax
Let it sit outside for as long as it takes to build the airplane.
After all that time you will not see much difference on either sample
that a little polish can't fix.
Jose Borja
Elk Mound WI
Author: samswift@... Time: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:27 pm PST Link
Sign me up on the petition!
Come on Dan!!!! Get with the program!! It's broken in now!!
:)
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Author: "Luc Bedard" <lucdbedard@...> Time: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:52 am PST Link
Maybe Dan is on to something...
Less weight, less mmoney, less time to build etc...
Maybe we should start an unpainted squadron of RV7 and we could meet
at Oshkosh every year or is that too rebelious ;-)
Luc Bedard
Gatineau, Qc,
RV7 emp and wings
Author: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@...> Time: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:46 pm PST Link
> Maybe Dan is on to something...
> Less weight, less mmoney, less time to build etc...
>
> Maybe we should start an unpainted squadron of RV7 and we could meet
> at Oshkosh every year or is that too rebelious ;-)
Finally some real words of wisdom on this list. 8^)
On this morning's practice flights, we had two painted and two unpainted
(RV-4 and my RV-7). Had some real nice color symmetry going. Now...was it
a coincidence that the unpainted planes kept having to throttle back for the
others? Hm.... Just kidding. 8^)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (708 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
Author: Steve Eberhart <steve@...> Time: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:52 pm PST Link
Luc Bedard wrote:
> Maybe Dan is on to something...
> Less weight, less mmoney, less time to build etc...
>
> Maybe we should start an unpainted squadron of RV7 and we could meet
> at Oshkosh every year or is that too rebelious ;-)
How about painted but no internal primer? Dan has already sprayed as
much paint on the inside of his airplane as I will put on the outside of
mine. Guess I shouldn't plan on making too many of the Oshkosh get
togethers since my plane will probably corrode away because of no primer :-)
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, wings done and started on the fuselage last week
Painting before assembly. No paint inside for the spiders, just on the
outside. Wife wants candy apple red!