Author: rv6bldr@... Time: Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:36 pm PDT Link
I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the dimensions will
need custom fitting in certain areas such as the nose area. But, on
side and rear areas, how much seal should be above the baffle when
there is 1/2" clearance between the baffle and cowl?
Also, it appears that about 1" of the seal extends below the baffle
for attachment with the rivets. Is 1" about right?
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
-6
Author: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@...> Time: Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:48 pm PDT Link
About 2" above the baffle and 1" below will work fine. Also, when riveting
on the baffle material with those wide head steel rivets, get yourself some
#6 washers and put them on the rivet head and hold it (carefully) while you
squeeze the rivet. This is because the steel rivets pull really hard and
will dimple your baffle material and look all goobered up if you don't. I
think there are photos of those on my website.
Paul Besing
RV-6A N197AB Arizona
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Flying
----- Original Message -----
From: <rv6bldr@h...>
To: <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
> I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the dimensions will
> need custom fitting in certain areas such as the nose area. But, on
> side and rear areas, how much seal should be above the baffle when
> there is 1/2" clearance between the baffle and cowl?
>
> Also, it appears that about 1" of the seal extends below the baffle
> for attachment with the rivets. Is 1" about right?
>
> Jerry Calvert
> Edmond Ok
> -6
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Author: Mike Thompson <grobdriver@...> Time: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:51 pm PDT Link
--- rv6bldr@h... wrote:
> I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the dimensions will
> need custom fitting
<snip>
Hey Jer,
Have you considered a plenum?
Check out:
http://www.homestead.com/RV8A/files/index.html
Jim Andrews is a local boy and even though his is a -8A, there are lots
of good ideas for under the hood.
Jim had his first flight yesterday too. I haven't heard back from him
how it went but if he prepared for the flight anything like he has
prepared his plane, it went perfect.
Anyway, the plenum is how I will go, except with hinges vice camlocks
to secure the lid. Only problem to think about is releasing all that
heat at gas stops... thinking about some kind of sliding affair to
manually open the plenum top and vent out the top of the cowl.
Whichever, good luck getting it all sealed up. Still trying to make
those cowl halves fit together right.
Mike Thompson
Austin, TX
-6 N140RV (Reserved)
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Author: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6bldr@...> Time: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:17 am PDT Link
Mike,
A friend of mine did his -6 that way and Ihad considered it. I'll check out Jim's site and chew on it for a couple of days.
How's the cowl going? I was surprised how well mine fit. I will do very little cosmestic glassing to get it where I want it.
Onward,
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Thompson (mailto:grobdriver@y...)
To: vansairforce@yahoogroups.com (mailto:vansairforce@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
--- rv6bldr@h... (mailto:rv6bldr@h...) wrote:
> I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the dimensions will
> need custom fitting
<snip>
Hey Jer,
Have you considered a plenum?
Check out:
http://www.homestead.com/RV8A/files/index.html (http://www.homestead.com/rv8a/files/index.html)
Jim Andrews is a local boy and even though his is a -8A, there are lots
ofgood ideas for under the hood.
Jim had his first flight yesterday too. I haven't heard back from him
how it went but if he prepared for the flight anything like he has
prepared his plane, it went perfect.
Anyway, the plenum is how I will go, except with hinges vice camlocks
to secure the lid. Only problem to think about is releasing all that
heat at gas stops... thinking about some kind of sliding affair to
manually open the plenum top and vent out the top of the cowl.
Whichever, good luck getting it all sealed up. Still trying to make
those cowl halvesfit together right.
Mike Thompson
Austin, TX
-6 N140RV (Reserved)
Firewall Forward
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Author: jim@... Time: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:40 am PDT Link
-The magnet type you need is NEODYMIUM, make sure you get a nickle
plated one, 1/2" diameter x 1/8" thick will hold just about anything,
Jim Edgeworth (RV6A)
-- In vansairforce@y..., "Bernie Kerr" <kerrjb@m...> wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> I have stumbled upon something the last few days. My oil door
hinges inward so that the cowl pressure seals it instead of opening
it. I got that idea from Rich Jankowski. Rich uses a rare earth
magnet to keep it closed until he gets ram pressure inside. I tried
this, but my magnet was not strong enough to keep it up while taxing,
so I put a nut plate and screw. Recently I made a flight and had
forgot to close the door. My passenger was observant enough to note
that the door came up while we were in flight. I have tried it once
more and it closes OK, but I want to make sure at some flight
conditions it is not rattling open to closed.
>
> When you are taxing or stopped , it automatically opens to let the
heat out :>)
> If it seems OK, I'm thinking of putting two doors on my next
project.
>
> Bernie Kerr, 6A, 200 hours, SE FLA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Calvert
> To: vansairforce@y...
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
> Mike,
>
> A friend of mine did his -6 that way and I had considered it.
I'll check out Jim's site and chew on it for a couple of days.
>
> How's the cowl going? I was surprised how well mine fit. I will
do very little cosmestic glassing to get it where I want it.
>
> Onward,
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Thompson
> To: vansairforce@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
> --- rv6bldr@h... wrote:
> > I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the
dimensions will
> > need custom fitting
> <snip>
>
> Hey Jer,
>
> Have you considered a plenum?
> Check out:
> http://www.homestead.com/RV8A/files/index.html
>
> Jim Andrews is a local boy and even though his is a -8A, there
are lots
> of good ideas for under the hood.
>
> Jim had his first flight yesterday too. I haven't heard back
from him
> how it went but if he prepared for the flight anything like he
has
> prepared his plane, it went perfect.
>
> Anyway, the plenum is how I will go, except with hinges vice
camlocks
> to secure the lid. Only problem to think about is releasing
all that
> heat at gas stops... thinking about some kind of sliding affair
to
> manually open the plenum top and vent out the top of the cowl.
>
> Whichever, good luck getting it all sealed up. Still trying to
make
> those cowl halves fit together right.
>
> Mike Thompson
> Austin, TX
> -6 N140RV (Reserved)
> Firewall Forward
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Author: jim@... Time: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:42 am PDT Link
-The magnet type you need is NEODYMIUM, make sure you get a nickle
plated one, 1/2" diameter x 1/8" thick will hold just about anything,
Jim Edgeworth (RV6A)
-- In vansairforce@y..., "Bernie Kerr" <kerrjb@m...> wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> I have stumbled upon something the last few days. My oil door
hinges inward so that the cowl pressure seals it instead of opening
it. I got that idea from Rich Jankowski. Rich uses a rare earth
magnet to keep it closed until he gets ram pressure inside. I tried
this, but my magnet was not strong enough to keep it up while taxing,
so I put a nut plate and screw. Recently I made a flight and had
forgot to close the door. My passenger was observant enough to note
that the door came up while we were in flight. I have tried it once
more and it closes OK, but I want to make sure at some flight
conditions it is not rattling open to closed.
>
> When you are taxing or stopped , it automatically opens to let the
heat out :>)
> If it seems OK, I'm thinking of putting two doors on my next
project.
>
> Bernie Kerr, 6A, 200 hours, SE FLA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Calvert
> To: vansairforce@y...
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
> Mike,
>
> A friend of mine did his -6 that way and I had considered it.
I'll check out Jim's site and chew on it for a couple of days.
>
> How's the cowl going? I was surprised how well mine fit. I will
do very little cosmestic glassing to get it where I want it.
>
> Onward,
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Thompson
> To: vansairforce@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Cowl seal fabric measurements
> --- rv6bldr@h... wrote:
> > I am attaching the cowl seal and I can see where the
dimensions will
> > need custom fitting
> <snip>
>
> Hey Jer,
>
> Have you considered a plenum?
> Check out:
> http://www.homestead.com/RV8A/files/index.html
>
> Jim Andrews is a local boy and even though his is a -8A, there
are lots
> of good ideas for under the hood.
>
> Jim had his first flight yesterday too. I haven't heard back
from him
> how it went but if he prepared for the flight anything like he
has
> prepared his plane, it went perfect.
>
> Anyway, the plenum is how I will go, except with hinges vice
camlocks
> to secure the lid. Only problem to think about is releasing
all that
> heat at gas stops... thinking about some kind of sliding affair
to
> manually open the plenum top and vent out the top of the cowl.
>
> Whichever, good luck getting it all sealed up. Still trying to
make
> those cowl halves fit together right.
>
> Mike Thompson
> Austin, TX
> -6 N140RV (Reserved)
> Firewall Forward
> __________________________________________________
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