Author: Guil Barros <flight@...> Time: Tue Sep 3, 2002 10:29 am PDT Link
Had the talk with the wife after getting all these responses :)
Its a go as soon as we move into our new house (oct 29th) :)))
(unfortunately just a one car garage, but i get to use that + the basement till
i cant fit)
other quick questions:
- how big of a compressor do i need?
- how to encourage the wife to help-out?
- actual build times for individual sub-kits?
- sources for cheap/good avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
thx for all the help...
-guil
Author: "dougreevesrv6" <vansairforce@...> Time: Tue Sep 3, 2002 10:42 am PDT Link
Guil,
Just about all newbie questions are answered quite well on the home
wing site at:
http://www.edt.com/homewing/faq.html
In a nutshell...whatever you think you'll need...you'll need more.
This goes for tools, money, time, sacrifice and commitment.
I don't think you'll find many that think it isn't all worth it!
Best,
Doug
N617AR almost there...
...stopped tracking costs a LONG time ago...
--- In vansairforce@y..., Guil Barros <flight@m...> wrote:
> Had the talk with the wife after getting all these responses :)
>
> Its a go as soon as we move into our new house (oct 29th) :)))
> (unfortunately just a one car garage, but i get to use that + the
basement till
> i cant fit)
>
> other quick questions:
>
> - how big of a compressor do i need?
> - how to encourage the wife to help-out?
> - actual build times for individual sub-kits?
> - sources for cheap/good avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
>
> thx for all the help...
>
> -guil
Author: "Greg Young" <gyoung@...> Time: Tue Sep 3, 2002 12:39 pm PDT Link
Two things that worked for me:
1) Avery swivel flush set - with this ANYBODY can work the gun while you
buck. It's almost impossible to get dings once the pressure is set
properly. Success is addicting.
2) Her own logbook - in my case it really was a "log", i.e. the side of
the wooden workbench. She wrote the date she helped with a sharpie and
added any comments she wanted. She beamed when I told her I pointed it
out to visitors and got testy when we went too long between riveting
sessions.
I've stayed away from marathon work sessions with her and kept it to
tasks with visible progress, like riveting. It apparently worked because
she's bugging me to help on the rebuild. As always, YMMV.
Regards,
Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix
Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guil Barros [mailto:flight@m...]
<snip>
> - how to encourage the wife to help-out?
Author: Paul Besing <pbesing@...> Time: Tue Sep 3, 2002 1:07 pm PDT Link
I like a large compressor with a 2 stage motor. Do
not get the "oil free" compressors. Much louder and
get much hotter. I have the verticle 60 gallon
monster from Campbell Hausfeld. About $350 at Harbor
Freight or Home Depot.
You will need someone to help buck some rivets. Or,
get her going on designing the paint job/interior.
Have her get fabric/leather samples from Becki
Orndorff or DJ Lauritsen.
Build times? Don't worry about it. They vary too
much. Just build it. (The new Nike homebuilt slogan)
Avionics? Avionics West, Stark Avionics
Instruments? Van's is always a good source (except
don't get the engine instruments. Go digital)
Interior, Becki Orndorff or DJ Lauritson.
http://www.fly-gbi.com and
http://www.clevelandtool.com , respectively.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
> other quick questions:
>
> - how big of a compressor do i need?
> - how to encourage the wife to help-out?
> - actual build times for individual sub-kits?
> - sources for cheap/good
> avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
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Author: "hypoxia413" <hypoxia413@...> Time: Tue Sep 3, 2002 5:50 pm PDT Link
Guil,
I'm a wife that helped out so feel free to have your wife contact me
if she needs moral support! It's nice to feel needed, and nice to
fit into places like the empennage where I was REALLY needed to buck
rivets.
By the way, we were also in a 1-car garage house for the first 6
months of our project... we just HAD to upgrade to a 2-car garage
house - nice, except it took over 3 years for me to actually be able
to park my CAR in there! At which point my 3 year old looked in at
the garage with the most quizzical look on his face and said "Mama,
why is there a CAR in the garage???"
- Judi Gordon
N442E co-pilot
--- In vansairforce@y..., Guil Barros <flight@m...> wrote:
> Had the talk with the wife after getting all these responses :)
>
> Its a go as soon as we move into our new house (oct 29th) :)))
> (unfortunately just a one car garage, but i get to use that + the
basement till
> i cant fit)
>
> other quick questions:
>
> - how big of a compressor do i need?
> - how to encourage the wife to help-out?
> - actual build times for individual sub-kits?
> - sources for cheap/good avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
>
> thx for all the help...
>
> -guil
Author: "Sid Love" <sidlove@...> Time: Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:31 am PDT Link
Guil,
In regard to the compressor.
The most important thing is to get a quiet compressor, SLOW turning pump and oil lubed. An oilless compressor (pump attached directly to the motor) will drive you nuts unless you (and your wife) are deaf.
You will be working with the compressor a LONG time, so get a good one.
A weak or worn out compressor seems to take forever to get that last 10 psi.
Most tools use 4 to 10 cfm a minute, so anything over 12 to 15 cfm will work. The bigger the better is nice. The larger tank and higher cfm mean it will turn on less often and run less.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Guil Barros <flight@m...>
Reply-To: vansairforce@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:46:25 -0500
>Had the talk with the wife after getting all these responses :)
>
>Its a go as soon as we move into our new house (oct 29th) :)))
>(unfortunately just a one car garage, but i get to use that + the basement till
>i cant fit)
>
>other quick questions:
>
>- how big of a compressor do i need?
>- how to encourage the wife to help-out?
>- actual build times for individual sub-kits?
>- sources for cheap/good avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
>
>thx for all the help...
>
>-guil
>Online help on this group at:
>http://help.yahoo.com/help/groups/
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Author: "Chris Marion" <cmarion@...> Time: Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:32 pm PDT Link
I agree 100%, I made the mistake of buying a Craftsman oilless 6.5hp 33gal
compressor, it does a great job but every time it kicks on I jump a mile. It
’s also not very neighbor friendly.
As far as encouraging your wife, I always remind my wife that the sooner we
get the plane finished the sooner she gets to park her Jeep in the garage.
This is a great motivation for her especially in the winter. One other thing
to keep in mind, it’s easier to operate the rivet gun than to use the
bucking bar. And if she makes a mistake keep your cool, I made the mistake
of loosing my temper early in the project and had to do some major
sucking-up/begging to get her back in the shop. Now as far as I’m concerned
she’s the best rivet gun operator in the mid west.
Good luck!!!
Chris Marion
Riveting RV-6 fuselage
Cincinnati, Oh
-----Original Message-----
From: Sid Love [mailto:sidlove@i...]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:27 PM
To: vansairforce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Resale Value ? + other Q's...
Guil,
In regard to the compressor.
The most important thing is to get a quiet compressor, SLOW turning pump and
oil lubed. An oilless compressor (pump attached directly to the motor) will
drive you nuts unless you (and your wife) are deaf.
You will be working with the compressor a LONG time, so get a good one.
A weak or worn out compressor seems to take forever to get that last 10 psi.
Most tools use 4 to 10 cfm a minute, so anything over 12 to 15 cfm will
work. The bigger the better is nice. The larger tank and higher cfm mean it
will turn on less often and run less.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Guil Barros <flight@m...>
Reply-To: vansairforce@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:46:25 -0500
>Had the talk with the wife after getting all these responses :)
>
>Its a go as soon as we move into our new house (oct 29th) :)))
>(unfortunately just a one car garage, but i get to use that + the basement
till
>i cant fit)
>
>other quick questions:
>
>- how big of a compressor do i need?
>- how to encourage the wife to help-out?
>- actual build times for individual sub-kits?
>- sources for cheap/good avionics/instruments/accessories/trim&seats
>
>thx for all the help...
>
>-guil
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