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Author: Mark Russell <mark@...> Time: Wed Aug 3, 2005 9:50 am PDT Link

Hi guys,

Is there sucha thing as a K1100-4 plate-nut / anchor-nut? If so, does
anyone know where I could buy them?

thanks,

Mark Russell

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Author: "Robert E. Lynch" <rv6lynch@...> Time: Wed Aug 3, 2005 10:20 am PDT Link

Cleveland Tool has them.

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Author: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@...> Time: Wed Aug 3, 2005 11:26 am PDT Link

Mark,

I have a modest supply of MS21070L04 platenuts, but no K1100
(dimpled) type. I really can't say if such an animal exists. I used
them to install all of the RV-8A's empennage fiberglass tips with
flush #4 screws. What application would you need the dimpled type
for?

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 58 hours
RV-8A empennage

--- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Is there sucha thing as a K1100-4 plate-nut / anchor-nut? If so,
does
> anyone know where I could buy them?
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark Russell

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Author: Mark Russell <mark@...> Time: Thu Aug 4, 2005 5:15 am PDT Link

Hi Rick,

I was looking to use them on an access cover on the forward fuselage of
an RV-8. I was going to use -6, but I did not leave enough edge
distance so rather than making the thing over again I was going to go
to a smaller screw. I found some non-countersunk/dimpled -4's from
Cleveland.

thanks,

Mark

On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Galati wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I have a modest supply of MS21070L04 platenuts, but no K1100
> (dimpled) type. I really can't say if such an animal exists. I used
> them to install all of the RV-8A's empennage fiberglass tips with
> flush #4 screws. What application would you need the dimpled type
> for?
>
> Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"  58 hours
> RV-8A  empennage

> --- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Is there sucha thing as a K1100-4 plate-nut / anchor-nut? If so,
> does
> > anyone know where I could buy them?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mark Russell

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Author: "Cary Rhodes" <rhodeseng@...> Time: Thu Aug 4, 2005 10:22 am PDT Link

if I'm not mistaken a -4 is going to be larger that a -6

--- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...> wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> I was looking to use them on an access cover on the forward
fuselage of
> an RV-8. I was going to use -6, but I did not leave enough edge
> distance so rather than making the thing over again I was going to
go
> to a smaller screw. I found some non-countersunk/dimpled -4's from
> Cleveland.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Galati wrote:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > I have a modest supply of MS21070L04 platenuts, but no K1100
> > (dimpled) type. I really can't say if such an animal exists. I
used
> > them to install all of the RV-8A's empennage fiberglass tips with
> > flush #4 screws. What application would you need the dimpled type
> > for?
> >
> > Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"  58 hours
> > RV-8A  empennage

> > --- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...>
wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > Is there sucha thing as a K1100-4 plate-nut / anchor-nut? If
so,
> > does
> > > anyone know where I could buy them?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark Russell

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Author: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@...> Time: Fri Aug 5, 2005 2:32 pm PDT Link

--- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, "Cary Rhodes" <rhodeseng@y...>
wrote:
> if I'm not mistaken a -4 is going to be larger that a -6

Think 4,6,8,or 10 in screw size. The #4 nutplate accepts a 4-40
screw. BTW, I searched and Google searched but Cleaveland seems to
offer the best pricing on (G)MS21047L04 nutplates at .36c apiece. The
average supplier seems to want anywhere from 40-50 cents per. The
highest priced vendor I found wanted .79c each! Thank you Cleaveland!

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 60 hours

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Author: "Cary Rhodes" <rhodeseng@...> Time: Fri Aug 5, 2005 2:32 pm PDT Link

I may have to retract that last bit of mis information.

A -4 nut plate would be for a -4 bolt, which is 1/4 inch threads

A -6 nut plate, I dunno.

But I don't think its for a #6 screw. maybe something -06 would be
for a #6 w/ 32 threads.

A #4 screw would be - -- something 440 maybe

I'm so confused here.

Almost as confused as the guy looking for the chewing gum that he
dropped in the chicken house.

cary r

-- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, "Cary Rhodes" <rhodeseng@y...>
wrote:
> if I'm not mistaken a -4 is going to be larger that a -6

> --- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...> wrote:
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > I was looking to use them on an access cover on the forward
> fuselage of
> > an RV-8. I was going to use -6, but I did not leave enough edge
> > distance so rather than making the thing over again I was going
to
> go
> > to a smaller screw. I found some non-countersunk/dimpled -4's
from
> > Cleveland.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Galati wrote:
> >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > I have a modest supply of MS21070L04 platenuts, but no K1100
> > > (dimpled) type. I really can't say if such an animal exists. I
> used
> > > them to install all of the RV-8A's empennage fiberglass tips
with
> > > flush #4 screws. What application would you need the dimpled
type
> > > for?
> > >
> > > Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"  58 hours
> > > RV-8A  empennage

> > > --- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, Mark Russell <mark@r...>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > Is there sucha thing as a K1100-4 plate-nut / anchor-nut? If
> so,
> > > does
> > > > anyone know where I could buy them?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mark Russell

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Author: "David Domeier" <davidd010@...> Time: Fri Aug 5, 2005 2:32 pm PDT Link

--- In vansairforce@yahoogroups.com, "Cary Rhodes" <rhodeseng@y...> wrote:
> if I'm not mistaken a -4 is going to be larger that a -6

You're not mistaken, Cary. MS numbering system ending in -4 generally is a 1/4-28.

The 6-32 ends with -06.

I think what the guys are talking about here is screw size -04, which is mighty small. I
believe the smallest size screw on my airplane is a 6-32 except maybe for some size 02
and 04's with instruments.

dd

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Author: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@...> Time: Sat Aug 6, 2005 8:47 am PDT Link

> .................I think what the guys are talking about here is
screw size -04, which is mighty small. I believe the smallest size
screw on my airplane is a 6-32 except maybe for some size 02 and 04's
with instruments.
dd

Dave

The numbering system is not particularly difficult. There is a vast
difference between ending an MS number in 04 such as MS21047L04
nutplate which accepts a 4-40 screw or an MS ending in 4 such as an
MS21050-4 nutplate which accepts a 1/4" bolt. The use of 4-40
screws can be quite common on RV's. I found extensive use for 4-40
screws and its nutplate companions all over my RV including the
popular Cleaveland wingtip hardware kits that use this size screw
exclusively for attaching wingtips in place.

Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 60 hours
RV-8A empennage done

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